Sketchup 2013 issues

Krisidious

@box said:

I can't for the life of me find how to turn off the "Welcome to sketchup" screen. It opens every time even if I already have SU open and will only go away by clicking, Start using.....
Is this nagware that only goes away with Pro, or am I even more stupid than usual?

should be a check box to turn it off right in the window itself... at the bottom.

Box

That was the first place I looked, but no.

If you are telling me it does exist then I need to adjust my resolution again to find it.

Box

So are you saying Kristoff, that in the pro version it doesn't nag you each time.

Krisidious

No, I'm saying it does. maybe it's because I'm still in evaluation?

Krisidious

You're right, mine is not there either...

Box

Ah Ok, so either it's annoying everyone that is using 13 or you and I are equally "Challenged"

Krisidious

I've looked through preferences and found nothing.

thomthom

@penguin2 said:

Loaded the following from EW:-
'Selection Toys'
'Edge Tools2'

http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32055#p476358

Dan Rathbun

@box said:

Is this nagware that only goes away with Pro, or am I even more stupid than usual?

No you are not any dumber than usual.

Yes the check box has been removed for the 2013 Make edition, and only appears in the Pro edition.

An omission from the "What's New" list...

Garry K

Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

Version 7 - 17 seconds
Version 8 - 19 seconds
Version 2013 - 52 seconds

For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

So - I'm not impressed.

TIG

@garry k said:

Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

Version 7 - 17 seconds
Version 8 - 19 seconds
Version 2013 - 52 seconds

For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

So - I'm not impressed.
The nag [aka 'welcome'] screen 'show' setting is hard-coded into 'Make', it simply ignores the existing registry entry that is set 0/1 for 'Pro' by the check-box...
So don't waste your time trying to circumvent it

thomthom

@garry k said:

Version 7 - 17 seconds
Version 8 - 19 seconds
Version 2013 - 52 seconds

Interesting. Is the operation wrapped in model.start_operation? And is the disable_ui argument set to true?

Garry K

I am not using model.start_operation.

thomthom

See if it makes a difference if you wrap it up into one operation - and use the disable_ui argument.

Garry K

I added in the code as you suggested.

model.start_operation( "gkware", true )

did all the work

model.commit_operation

Version 8 increased its time from 19 seconds to 90 seconds
Version 2013 increased its time from 52 seconds to 64 seconds

So - for those who are using start / commit then 2013 is faster. But for me - it's quite a bit slower.

thomthom

That is bizzare. I've never seen disable_ui make things slower. It's always been faster as it prevented the UI from updating while the operation ran.

Garry K

When running code without the disable_ui I have to make certain that the Outliner is not visible - otherwise it is really slow.

Here are 2 images of a kitchen. One in Sketchup 8 and the other in Sketchup 2013

Sketchup 8

Sketchup 2013

thomthom

For the images - the edge appear more jagged because you haven't exported with anti-aliasing.

Garry K

These aren't exported - I used a snipping tool to grab exactly what I see on screen.

If you click on the images and compare them - Sketchup 8 is giving me better graphics.

Garry K

I figured it out - I had to play around with the OpenGL settings. Sketchup 2013 defaulted to 15 0x antialias whereas Sketchup 8 was using 40 4x.

Now they are both rendering the same.