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    • BoxB 線上
      Box
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      My point exactly, there are several already well developed, but he who shouts loudest wins these days.

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      • jeff hammondJ 離線
        jeff hammond
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        @box said:

        My point exactly, there are several already well developed, but he who shouts loudest wins these days.

        lol.. apple could probably come out with iBread and subsequently convince half the world they invented bread..

        (but who's to blame? apple? or consumers?... i mean, i very often take digs at these giant corporations etc but the main reason they can pull this kind of crap is because we_the_people let them.. with apple though, they have this uncanny knack for making a large percentage of people feel good about being ripped off 😉 )

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        • BoxB 線上
          Box
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          Yes indeed we do let them, but then people say they are just giving us what we want so they aren't to blame, but they are in fact giving us what they want us to have so they are to blame.
          Look at the history of the food industry, sugars, high fructose corn syrup, now horse meat etc. Yes we all let it happen but they have done it deliberately for profit, not out of the goodness of their hearts, not to make life better for people, not for the betterment of mankind, purely because it makes more money for them.
          Mac and Micro are no different, if there was no profit in advancing technology we would still be excited by tin cans and string.

          The whole self promotion overindulgence social media look at me look at them bollocks really gets on my tits. Yes I blame both sides of the coin, which is why I think about my choices and often find myself either ahead of the herd, bumping heads with it or off somewhere in the wrong field wallowing in crap.

          It a classic catch 22 or chicken and egg dilemma, but as long as we let it happen like it's only happening to someone else it will continue. A perfect example of "It's not us it's them" is the media reporting about how invasive the media is. I don't know how they can do it with a straight face.

          But back to topic, I think the iWatch was originally invented by the porn industry. Come to think of it, with the old mechanical gyro winder you could keep one charged for years that way.

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          • jeff hammondJ 離線
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            haha.. great post

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            • pbacotP 離線
              pbacot
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              At last the "two-way wrist radio" * add arrow caption*,

              No, make that "two-way wrist TV"

              Wait, "two-way wrist rocket launcher"?

              When was the last time I wanted something strapped on my body?

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              • Mike LuceyM 離線
                Mike Lucey
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                I have an I'm Watch .... don't use it. Its somewhere on one of my gadget shelves ..... ask Rich 😒

                Yeah, the iPhone is my watch and like Jean I rarely get stuck as to what time it is, time is all over the place.

                Now, something that would be useful. A watch that ties to an iPhone that ties to my car keys and ties to my wallet. If any of them get separated an alarm goes off. From what I gather its not possible quite yet but getting there.

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                • jeff hammondJ 離線
                  jeff hammond
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                  @mike lucey said:

                  Now, something that would be useful. A watch that ties to an iPhone that ties to my car keys and ties to my wallet.

                  right.. that's the kind of stuff i see happening with an iwatch.. only everything is in the watch itself..
                  (keys,wallet,phone,etc.. maybe even some electronic cigarettes eventually 😉 )

                  dunno.. apple has a pretty damn good track record when it comes to introducing new products..

                  and it usually follows a pattern similar to this..

                  @unknownuser said:

                  1. People say how much they hate the idea and will have no use for it
                  2. Apple confirms the device with an event
                  3. Some people finally understands the idea, others still hate it and deem it DOA
                  4. The device goes on sale to the tune of a few million
                  5. Those who bought it love it, those who didn't, trash it and says sales will begin to decline soon enough.
                  6. Apples quarter call, reports best quarter ever and the rest of the world, quarter by quarter begins to buy the device and Apple is deemed the most innovative company in history once again.

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                  • Mike LuceyM 離線
                    Mike Lucey
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                    Jeff, I am an Apple user but I don't think their products are really all that innovative. From what I see they have always looked at what was already on the scene and found ways of producing a better 'quality' version.

                    It would not surprise me if they acquired I'm Watch and took things from there. I imagine it could be done with their 'pocket change'.

                    As regards getting a good viewing experience on a watch, I don't know. I read that there is a larger version of the iPhone on the horizon. I imagine this is because of the success of the Galaxy. Accessories can only go so small.

                    Then again, if some kind of a wrist device can be developed that uses holograms, now we would be talking, but I don't see Apple or any of the giants doing this. More than likely it will be a small start-up that will pioneer this innovation.

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                    • jeff hammondJ 離線
                      jeff hammond
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                      @mike lucey said:

                      As regards getting a good viewing experience on a watch, I don't know. I read that there is a larger version of the iPhone on the horizon. I imagine this is because of the success of the Galaxy. Accessories can only go so small.

                      yeah, the 5" iphone.. thing is, your wrist has a larger circumference than 5".. it's more like 7"

                      i highly doubt an apple watch would be an ipod nano connected to a wrist strap.. the strap would (could/should?) be part of the device..

                      @unknownuser said:

                      More than likely it will be a small start-up that will pioneer this innovation.

                      then a company like apple will buy it and claim it as their own invention 😉 (siri, apple maps, etc)

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                      • soloS 離線
                        solo
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        some dude on a forum wrote:1. People say how much they hate the idea and will have no use for it
                        2. Apple confirms the device with an event
                        3. Some people finally understands the idea, others still hate it and deem it DOA
                        4. The device goes on sale to the tune of a few million
                        5. Those who bought it love it, those who didn't, trash it and says sales will begin to decline soon enough.
                        6. Apples quarter call, reports best quarter ever and the rest of the world, quarter by quarter begins to buy the device and Apple is deemed the most innovative company in history once again.

                        The truth, now I'm wondering with the absense of Mr. Jobs are there visionaries at Apple to continue the trend? What would Steve have done?

                        I know he was interested in transforming TV but not sure he had a watch on his mind.

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                        • jeff hammondJ 離線
                          jeff hammond
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                          @solo said:

                          The truth, now I'm wondering with the absense of Mr. Jobs are there visionaries at Apple to continue the trend? What would Steve have done?

                          I know he was interested in transforming TV but not sure he had a watch on his mind.

                          i wonder if in 20 years or so, we'll look back on steve jobs' death and link it to the death of apple.. he was an incredibly unique individual with no real counterpart...

                          i mean, i don't think apple should now try to maintain a "what would steve do?" attitude.. of course, they should try to stay true to some of his visions but the reality is, once a few more years pass, nobody will actually know 'what steve would do' in the current state of the game..

                          i guess time will tell.

                          [edit] or hey.. maybe s.jobs already 'peaked' prior to his death.. and the timing actually worked out good in regards to forcing some of his proteges to take the reins.. (strictly talking about apple as a company.. of course his death is untimely no matter how you look at it)..

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                          • soloS 離線
                            solo
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                            I occasionally read some Mashable and Mac rumour articles (they are huge Apple fan boys) as they get to my news feed (toilet reading), I have started seeing the trend of calling Steve a genius, a legend, etc, etc. Some even credited him to not only the creator of the tablet but also the PC citing all others to be hacks. So I guess no matter who replaces Steve and even how succesful they are, they are damned to fail as nobody can top a legend.

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                            • jeff hammondJ 離線
                              jeff hammond
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                              @solo said:

                              I occasionally read some Mashable and Mac rumour articles (they are huge Apple fan boys) as they get to my news feed (toilet reading), I have started seeing the trend of calling Steve a genius, a legend, etc, etc. Some even credited him to not only the creator of the tablet but also the PC citing all others to be hacks. So I guess no matter who replaces Steve and even how succesful they are, they are damned to fail as nobody can top a legend.

                              yeah.. and i personally probably put him into a legendary realm.. hero_ize him or whatever.. and i've never personally met the guy and know little about him other than a few blips here and there..
                              which could then possibly be tracked back to apple's hype machine.. "a company run by a god" type of deal..

                              but, from what i can reasonably gather, he almost single handedly pulled apple out of the dumps and made it what it is today.. all the while, keeping me happy with most of my computer needs so...

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                              • BoxB 線上
                                Box
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                                So do you have a picture of him on the wall that you worship, would that be an iSteve or a simple iCon.

                                Personally for me it would be an iJobbie. 🤣

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                                • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                  jeff hammond
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                                  @box said:

                                  So do you have a picture of him on the wall that you worship, would that be an iSteve or a simple iCon.

                                  Personally for me it would be an iJobbie. 🤣

                                  haha.. no..
                                  i don't worship him like that.. i never even think about him unless there's a discussion like this or i'm watching an iEvent or something..

                                  now scarlett johansson et.al on the other hand... 😄

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                                  • Mike LuceyM 離線
                                    Mike Lucey
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                                    Yeah, Steve Job's shadow will be difficult to get our from under by any new bright sparks in Apple no matter how good they are. BTW, I never regarded Jobs as an inventor just a bloody good innovator. He proved time and time again that its possible to get premium price even from the tight fisted ....... says I while typing on my nearly 3 year old MBP 😆

                                    I still think the iPhone4 was a retrograde step, ergonomically. The hard edges are not a nice feel in the hand. The old iPhone3 was much nicer to hold and surely a hand phone should be comfortable to hold!

                                    It will be interesting to see the Apple TV set, curved, if rumor is to be believed! I think the iWatch will come after that, although the I'm Watch would be quite credible as an Apple product, quality wise! All Apple would have to do is drop the 'm' from the name and integrate the OS. Must check if I'm Watch are SM listed ...... maybe a few bob to be made 😄

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                                    • livemixerL 離線
                                      livemixer
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      ... to me, apple is basically a marketing firm.. except they have enough money to just buy the inventions/products/technology then claim them as their own...

                                      There is a lot more to it than that. Apple is among the very few major corporations willing to take big financial risks on innovative new products with no proven track record of success. They don't just buy new technology, they also invest heavily in developing it, both in house & through collaborations with other companies.

                                      In one of the earliest (& often forgotten!) examples, almost nobody saw the potential of GUI interfaces until Apple developed PARC's crude implementation by adding key usability features like drop-down menus & overlapping windows … & even after they did, it took many lean years for that investment to pay off. Apple is among the very few computer manufacturing companies to ever have taken an active role in the design & development of CPU architectures optimized for a specific OS, first with the ill-fated (for Apple) AIM Alliance & currently in partnerships with Intel & Samsung.

                                      We even have Apple to thank for Gorilla Glass. Only after Steve Jobs went to Corning in 2006 looking for a rugged, scratch resistant glass for the iPhone project did Corning commit a factory to manufacturing it in large quantities, initially just for the iPhone & now for around two hundred products from many different companies.

                                      I think Apple is without peer in this respect. Its track record is far from perfect but it does seem to have an uncanny ability to make the right bets far more often than anybody else. That's a powerful inducement for other companies to follow suit.

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                                      • Mike LuceyM 離線
                                        Mike Lucey
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                                        Caught this on iClarified,

                                        New renders show how Apple could make wristwatches work more like iPods

                                        http://i2.wp.com/boygeniusreport.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/iwatch-render-1.jpg?w=618

                                        http://bgr.com/2013/02/20/apple-iwatch-renders-332137/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28BGR+%7C+Boy+Genius+Report%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

                                        Some of the concepts turning up are excellent ...... looking at least 👍

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                                        • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                          jeff hammond
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                                          @mike lucey said:

                                          Caught this on iClarified,

                                          New renders show how Apple could make wristwatches work more like iPods

                                          but that's basically already out there and being sold by apple nonetheless..
                                          http://store.apple.com/us/product/H4077ZM/B/iwatchz-q-series-watchband-for-ipod-nano

                                          Another-Watchband-Apple-Store.png

                                          and i highly doubt apple would have a 100 person dev team going at that 😉

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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Apple Inc. has a team of about 100 product designers working on a wristwatch-like device that may perform some of the tasks now handled by the iPhone and iPad, two people familiar with the company’s plans said.

                                          idk.. i guess i'll just lay off the topic for a while.. but i think people hear "oh.. an apple watch" and think "a watch.. yeah, i already know what that is"

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                                          • pbacotP 離線
                                            pbacot
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                                            For Apple, the style has to be there. It can't just be a nerdy thing hanging on your wrist, and given the jewelry legacy of watchmaking, it's should to be tricky to pull off.

                                            Mike, you make it sound like Job's ghost is more overbearing than having him walking around live to overpower the upcoming idea-person.

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