Honeycomb lamp

olishea

@olishea said:

Anyone else seen Yosemite conflicts with SketchUp 8?

everyone that uses it...

there are a couple of 'fixes' if you can live without 'fonts' and 'Outliner'

I've got a script if you want...

v15 works very well...
john

Yes, please share the fix. I've got a job I need to finish on SU and I just can't open it.

This is why I don't like updating things!

driven

@olishea said:

Yes, please share the fix. I've got a job I need to finish on SU and I just can't open it.

you need to be alble to open it to apply any fix...
so open Terminal.app
and paste in

open -F /Applications/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/Sketchup.app

that should open a new model...
close Outliner and never open again...
don't use fonts for anything...

close and try to open from a skp file...

The script I have will rename those, so they can't ever open, but try this first and get back asap...

if you want to PM your phone number I can talk you thru it...

john

olishea

When I paste that into terminal, it opens SU but then it closes straight away. It loads some plugins and then quits before I can do anything.

Could it be a plugin causing this problem?

Thanks for your support

driven

most likely a renderer...
try this one

cd /
Applications/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/SketchUp.app/Contents/MacOS/SketchUp -DisableRubyAPI YES

if it runs, it's likely to be a plugin...
john

olishea

sketchup quit unexpectedly

aagaghghhh!!!

olishea

I deleted the old Twilight Render plugin and now SU opens....but obviously without any plugins.

But......I tried the original code you gave me and SU still crashes?

driven

@olishea said:

....but obviously without any plugins.

once you restart SU you should have your Plugins back...

@unknownuser said:

But......I tried the original code you gave me and SU still crashes?

that should be reusable, the -F just means start fresh...
normally if something fails from Terminal, you close the window, and open a new one...
otherwise your not sure if the first has finished...
EDIT:
you can try -n as well, I use both in some of my plugins...

@unknownuser said:

-F  Opens the application "fresh," that is, without restoring windows.
     Saved persistent state is lost, except for Untitled documents.
 -n  Open a new instance of the application(s) even if one is already run-
     ning.

olishea

So...I'm kinda lost.

I can only open SU using the "disable ruby api" code.

I can't restart SU to see my plugins, it just crashes unless I use the above code.

driven

it is possibly only one ruby that causing it,

to start have a look in tools and rename any that aren't from SU

open -R /Library/Application\ Support/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/Sketchup/[Tt]ools

you could rename Plugins folder while your there and make sure the SU rubies function.

 mv  /Library/Application\ Support/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/SketchUp/plugins /Library/Application\ Support/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/SketchUp/plugins_copy

you can also check for other plugins...

open -R ~/Library/Application\ Support/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/Sketchup/[Pp]lugins

john

olishea

Thanks, I will have a look when I'm back on my SU computer. Really strange how this is happening!

driven

not so strange really...
v8 is ancient in computing terms...
even without any plugins, SU has problems as it uses some 'old' Apple frameworks that are not supported in Yosemite...

for plugins the main issue are security and the ruby version...
some plugin vendors think they should be able to hide files all over the place and Apple have finally said 'No'...
and it has also stopped shipping Ruby 1.8...
on a mac, SU has always used the Apple supplied version...

SU v14/15 actually supplies it's own ruby, so this type of conflict should subside it the future...

I keep v8, only because I write and test plugins, I haven't even opened it in 3 months, before your issues...

It is possible to carry on using it if your ready for grief, or if you roll back to Mavericks, but I think the Yosemite/v15 combo is a ++ situation...

most of the renderers [out of the few that work on mac] have caught up, and most of the other day to day plugins run better...

john

olishea

I suppose that's as good an excuse as any to upgrade to 2015!

The reason I stayed with V8 is because of all the plugin conflicts I kept reading about. I suppose I'll just have to deal with it!

Djeeno

I usually consider myself both rather intelligent and artistic... but... you guys are hurting my brain.

I has the dumb... how do think?

Seriously though, I realize this is an old thread but this has my brain in a knot trying to decipher the magic "unicorn fartin rainbows and poopin' chocolate chip cookies" combo of plugins and algorithms.

There isn't one though... right? If there was on thing I wished for (if I haven't missed it existing already) it would be "Place object at point" if you see what I mean?

THe function to place points and then place prefabricated objects at these points and then intersecting with main object.

Either way, beautiful work guys.

olishea

Hey Djeeno. Thanks for the comment.

I think you need Blender for what you are talking about. Or even parametric modelling.

Sketchup isn't the best for this sort of modelling.....that's why we have to use several plugins. It's a pain but you can make some funky looking objects.