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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      @wind-borne said:

      Alfred...Alfred...Alfred...

      seems sort of like using spotlight for launching.. (cmmd-space.. start typing sk.. <return>.. sketchup launches)
      ?

      probably some other reasons why alfred is advantageous though?

      the spotlight launch method never stuck with me so i assume neither will alfred.. i might give it a whirl though.. thanks.

      @livemixer said:

      So instead of having to wade through a huge popup list of everything in the Application folder, I can easily control exactly what each folder shows, how it looks in the Dock, & include things not in the system level Application folder like AppleScripts apps, apps on networked computers, or anything else I want grouped with the related apps.

      something else i'm liking with launchpad (granted, i've used it for about 36 hrs only 😆)..
      you can move the apps around and drop them onto each other to create 'folders' and whatnot..
      very similar to iphone/ipad style launching and organizing.. dunno, people complain about osx trying to be iOS but the launchpad implementation is seeming pretty good on a computer.. plus, the filter is live when activating launchpad so you can just start typing to narrow down what's being shown..

      @unknownuser said:

      Plus, since the items in these folders are just aliases, I can rename them or give them their own custom icons without having to change anything in the apps themselves, avoiding potential hassles with app updates that might replace a custom icon or fail because the name has changed.

      I also keep a select few app icons always visible directly in the Dock so I can drag & drop documents on them that otherwise would open with a different default app. That's handy for things like choosing which version of SU to use with a model & quicker (for me, anyway) than using the Finder's contextual menu "Open with…" feature.

      yeah, i have some various little things setup like that too.. i just installed 10.8 though so i'm going to try to break away from some older conventions if i can.. some of the newer methods in the OS itself seem pretty sweet so i'll try to adapt a little.. i guess if i don't try to keep up, i run the risk of turning into a computer dinosaur 😆

      dotdotdot

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
        jeff hammond
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        I also like the idea of them putting Siri and the computers this post I'm just talking and I'm not typing it I'll post it without any error corrections I don't think it's quite there yet

        [ 😆 .. yeah, not quite there .. yet]

        [more talking below]

        Bracket edit bracket – oh, hey… Space just realized you can also say things like bracket, and…

        Edit again – well, bracket doesn't work. Space doesn't work. The dots work, works maybe!?*& Parentheses + - ÷ ^ … A lot of these seem to work. Still, kind of strange though.

        I'll try to space by saying space bar over and over did that work? Edit – no

        Edit again – oh, it's the forum software that's preventing me from using spaces. Even if I tried to put spaces with the [spacebar], the software closes the gap upon posting.

        dotdotdot

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        • livemixerL Offline
          livemixer
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          @unknownuser said:

          something else i'm liking with launchpad (granted, i've used it for about 36 hrs only 😆)..
          you can move the apps around and drop them onto each other to create 'folders' and whatnot..

          I haven't used 10.8 (& only was a beta tester for 10.7) so maybe it is better now, but one thing I hated about Launchpad in the 10.7 betas was it displayed every app on my Mac, regardless of location. Since I have dozens & dozens of Applescript apps & lots of seldom used 'helper' apps (like 95% of the stuff in the Developer folder), Launchpad displayed literally hundreds of apps on first use. I very quickly gave up on trying to organize them into logical Launchpad 'folder' groupings.

          Besides that, none of the launcher apps I have tried let me easily substitute custom icons & 'nicknames' for apps like I can with my alias folder method.

          re: Siri dictation: It strikes me as a lot like the inference engine in SU -- sometimes it 'knows' exactly what you want & sometimes it seems determined to do something else. 😡

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          • wind-borneW Offline
            wind-borne
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            @unknownuser said:

            re:launchers..
            i'm stuck on keeping my apps folder in the dock and launch from there.. though the launchpad gesture seems to be working a lot better on 10.8 so i'll be trying that out for a while and see if it sticks with me.. (3finger + thumb pinch)

            i also noticed it digs inside folders to get the actual apps on the launchpad (such as sketchup).. i didn't realize it did that when it first came out..

            what do you use?

            Alfred...Alfred...Alfred...

            There is a free version at App Store to acquire a taste but i bought the Powerpack once that was available a couple years ago. Would be the first app i installed on any computer.

            Also use KeyLauncher on more specific apps, just press a key.

            "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

            %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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            • wind-borneW Offline
              wind-borne
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              @livemixer said:

              Besides that, none of the launcher apps I have tried let me easily substitute custom icons & 'nicknames' for apps like I can with my alias folder method.

              Looks like you have your method worked out.
              Alfred does respect changes to icon/name but is blind to aliases far as I can tell 😕

              copied and edited a small app


              alt.png

              "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

              %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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              • livemixerL Offline
                livemixer
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                @wind-borne said:

                copied and edited a small app

                Do you mean you edited the icon of the app itself or that Alfred stores its own copies of app icons & you edited that?

                One of the reasons I use aliases is that way, if an update changes an app's icon (like when Trimble acquired SU), I don't have to worry that my custom icon will be erased & replaced (since it is just an icon applied to an alias file, & not to the actual app).

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                • wind-borneW Offline
                  wind-borne
                  last edited by

                  @livemixer said:

                  @wind-borne said:

                  copied and edited a small app

                  Do you mean you edited the icon of the app itself or that Alfred stores its own copies of app icons & you edited that?

                  One of the reasons I use aliases is that way, if an update changes an app's icon (like when Trimble acquired SU), I don't have to worry that my custom icon will be erased & replaced (since it is just an icon applied to an alias file, & not to the actual app).

                  Copied app, changed name/icon as test of your quote i cited.
                  i don't like to mess with originals.

                  My quirk, i find that arrow stuck into an alias unacceptable 😆
                  Can you show a way around that?

                  On another matter without entering that wishes thread if you don't mind using a plugin, circles and rectangles can be drawn as you requested with Tools on Surface by Fredo.

                  "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

                  %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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                  • livemixerL Offline
                    livemixer
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                    @wind-borne said:

                    My quirk, i find that arrow stuck into an alias unacceptable 😆
                    Can you show a way around that?

                    The only way I know around that is very extreme & not recommended: dig down into the OS & edit the system level icon files (there are a couple of them) that contain the curved arrow overlays to replace the arrow image with something else.

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                      Aerilius
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                      An alternative to check out could be symbolic links or hard links instead of aliases (ok, better avoid hard links). Do they have arrows as well?

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                      • livemixerL Offline
                        livemixer
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                        I think the Finder treats symbolic links the same as aliases. Hard links would work but like you say, using them probably isn't a good idea, at least for folders.

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                          driven
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                          Hard links are different on a mac, they are modified (from the unix version) for use with TimeMachine.
                          They work on files or folders.
                          This is a very good article explaining the different types of links as of Lion, although I believe it's the same on earlier osx's.
                          http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1762250&seqNum=4
                          john

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • livemixerL Offline
                            livemixer
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                            @driven said:

                            Hard links are different on a mac, they are modified (from the unix version) for use with TimeMachine.
                            They work on files or folders….

                            I'm familiar with how Time Machine uses hard links in the backup folders. Shortly after it was released, I spent some time on Apple's user support forums trying to explain to curious users how it worked & why they should not tamper with those folders outside of the Time Machine interface.

                            A surprising number of Mac users noticed the backup folder sizes added up to more than the total backup space used on the drive & tried to "fix" that. 😞

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