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      archturn
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      @gilles said:

      Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

      Looks better than mine. So you redid the spiral?

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        @unknownuser said:

        @unknownuser said:

        found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

        You have some plugins who works only with groups! πŸ˜‰

        You're right. And when I use them I wind up converting the groups to components. I'd be happier if a component was just created by the plugin.

        I haven't found a need to use any plugins that only work on groups.

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          archturn
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          @dave r said:

          Gilles version of your model illustrates very clearly the reduction in file size that I mentioned earlier. πŸ˜‰

          And even 100 of them is only 820 Kb. That's a couple of hours of production in your shop, right?

          Wish I could make them that fast. I missing something - would like to know your work flow on the spiral

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
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            I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

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              pilou
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              @unknownuser said:

              found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

              You have some plugins who works only with groups! πŸ˜‰

              Frenchy Pilou
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                archturn
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                @dave r said:

                I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                Dave
                That'd be great!!

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
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                  and here for example after explode the original component for paint each faces
                  I don't need to make a component again, but just a group! πŸ˜‰

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                  Frenchy Pilou
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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
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                    @archturn said:

                    @dave r said:

                    I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                    Dave
                    That'd be great!!

                    Maybe a live demo this weekend?

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                      archturn
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                      @dave r said:

                      @archturn said:

                      @dave r said:

                      I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                      Dave
                      That'd be great!!

                      Maybe a live demo this weekend?

                      Sounds good

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                      • daleD Offline
                        dale
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                        I just want to thank you all for this thread. It has been a great learning experience. πŸ‘

                        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                        • gillesG Offline
                          gilles
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                          @archturn said:

                          @gilles said:

                          Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

                          Looks better than mine. So you redid the spiral?

                          No I did not, its your model where I cut part of geometries to make components πŸ˜„

                          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                            pbacot
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                            This thread is hot! Another point I would make is with screw.rb one can then make a component of spiral section that would stack directly beneath the other (without turning) and so you could increase, vary the height (within a module) easily.

                            I assume that can be done with Gilles' version.

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                            • gillesG Offline
                              gilles
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                              Yes we can!

                              huhu couldn't resist.

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                archturn
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                                @pbacot said:

                                This thread is hot! Another point I would make is with screw.rb one can then make a component of spiral section that would stack directly beneath the other (without turning) and so you could increase, vary the height (within a module) easily.

                                I assume that can be done with Gilles' version.

                                If I understand you right this is one method I used - I made a 2 1/2" profile (the profile of my barley twist router cutter) then used the screw plugin to make a 5" high one revolution spiral. I grouped it, then copied and stacked it on top the other spiral. I then selected those to array the rest of the way.

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                                  Dave R
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                                  That's pretty much it but use a component instead of a group.

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                                    archturn
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                                    @dave r said:

                                    That's pretty much it but use a component instead of a group.
                                    Still not sure why there is such a difference in file size

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                                      pilou
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                                      I believe it's quasi the same size maybe a little less for the group because there is less informations inside no Glue etc..., but same info as pure geometry.

                                      Frenchy Pilou
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                                      My Little site :)

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                                        gilles
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                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        illes wrote:
                                        Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

                                        Isn't it a big difference?
                                        Also modifying all instances at once.
                                        Create libraries for further use in other models.

                                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                          archturn
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                                          Re: file size of my barley twist stair newel
                                          I'm still perplexed by the size of my file. I started over with a new SU file and made my newel without the barley twist. After imported my profile from CAD, did a sweep, created a component of the newel and my file size is 3 MB. What gives?
                                          BTW I have purged layers from the CAD file import

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
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                                            How many segments did your imported profile turn out to have? The profile I created last night with the Bezier tool had 22 (including the two little short segments I added at the ends. And the total number of entities after one turn of the screw was 2686.

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