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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
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      @michaliszissiou said:

      @Simon.
      What production now? These are just 10 mins doodles.
      We may be more clever than others involved into 3d VideoGaming industry. You never know LOL
      we can understand maths, thus, we can understand what displacement, as a sculpting method, means. Though Zbrush is dedicated on this method.
      Sorry to say this, but I mean it.

      "What production now? These are just 10 mins doodles."
      I Michalis, I see you actually engaged in a certain waywardness mood. And even if I miss the context implicated I'm sure you have some good reasons for.

      Apart that, no matter the time passed and the effort/difficulty (I know the simple use of displacement maps ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜ž everything you touch by sculpting , by computer modelling etc comes artistically interesting / beautiful.

      See that Gothic/Futuristic building!!
      I would really like to see it constructed in a real place. I feel it

      https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/goth1H.jpg

      (Well, I can also understand that it is annoying in a certain way to receive compliments too simple and direct)

      Staying aware of your "productions"
      ++ simon.

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      • michaliszissiouM Offline
        michaliszissiou
        last edited by

        Simon
        It's a nice trick, a very inspiring game if you like.
        One for sure.
        Real sculpting means real geometry. The best way is to use tris for this.
        After you have the basics, the rest can be just displacements. Not real sculpting though, is it doesn't change the topology, Only subdivides and displaces it.
        But to use random patterns around, have a full control on where to place them after... a nice tool for visualizing things.

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          The Uv Video construction of the Texture remember this crazzy gallery!
          Have fun visit! โ˜€
          by Jock Cooper (I believe that you can use these textures for no commercial use - Creative Commons licence)

          http://www.fractal-recursions.com/fractals/fractal-02070501.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            And also another thing ๐Ÿ˜„
            The texturing of the tore is a very long process! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
            Why not use an unique square texture composed with tricky organisation on the edges for have graphic connection ? And no symmetric thing in the center!
            So you have 4 possibilities in 2D for one quad or 8 if you inverse the face!
            So just make a random for each quad and you have a perfect texture with no repetition on the tore!

            I have make the same for volumes (and a 24 position of a dice) !
            Here the script for 24 positions of a volume in the space 3D for Blender ๐Ÿ˜‰
            Many Thanks to Zeauro! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

            http://www.3dsaloon.fr/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=453&mode=view/rokbox.jpg

            Remember i have made that also for SU! ๐Ÿ˜‰
            Thx to Sdmitch for the same script for SU ๐Ÿ˜‰ Page (2)
            Here a no symmetric volume can connect on each face!

            http://www.3dsaloon.fr/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=1421&mode=view/rokbox.jpg

            And the next year i will make animation with that inside SU because now I can manage Simfonia! โ˜€

            @Simon :look my little videos about Simofonia: and try the free version, you don't regreat it! (in French ze vidรฉos! ๐Ÿ˜‰
            Menu Divers / Simfonia
            It's a very funny Plugin! ๐Ÿ‘

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • michaliszissiouM Offline
              michaliszissiou
              last edited by

              @Pilou
              This tutorial explains some basic thoughts.
              This technique is made for much more than displacing a torus (which actually isn't sculpting at all)
              Much more to say on UV editing, on blender UV editor especially. It seems, I'm among the few who know how to handle it spontaneously. Funny, the tool is among the best I've seen around, very easy to use. I still remember this maya UV nonsense (brrrr)
              The UV texturing of a torus is a two-three clicks operation.
              -select faces
              -U key for UV_unwrap, [reset], ctrl+P to pack on texture, [foolow active quad] to align them nicely. Voilร .
              Now, the next generation of experiments LOL
              Psychonautics. More are coming, including figurative sculpting too.

              https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/psychoA1.jpg

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              • N Offline
                nickchun
                last edited by

                Michalis, thanks a lot for introducing this. I have just started learning Blender again and have learned a lot by following yours and Olivers tutorials.

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  As any image can be used for displacement this world is quasi infinite! ๐Ÿ˜„

                  Number images 1000 * 1000 pixels with 1 000 000 colors
                  = 1 000 000 Power 1 000 000 so a big number! ๐Ÿ˜„

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • michaliszissiouM Offline
                    michaliszissiou
                    last edited by

                    @unknownuser said:

                    As any image can be used for displacement this world is quasi infinite!

                    Indeed.
                    Meanwhile try exr 32 bit images for depth map. Unfortunately, such maps can be produced by baking only. Any other attempt may become quite unpredictable.
                    Pilou, my "message" is to use horizontals and verticals only, leaving the interesting part on the topology and UV mapping. So, to have predictable results, and unpredictable results too. Like clicking the button "I feel lucky", sometimes. ๐Ÿ˜„

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      @Simon :look my little videos about Simofonia: and try the free version, you don't regreat it! (in French ze vidรฉos! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                      Menu Divers / Simfonia
                      It's a very funny Plugin! ๐Ÿ‘

                      Hi Pilou

                      Hope you feel good. ๐Ÿ˜„
                      Thank you to have driven my attention on this plugin. As you had surely thought, I am naturally very interested on the ability to achieve camera and crane movements, but also models animations through SketchUP. I have watched your 2 firsts videos: instructive & simple but funny also (the steamroller compressed ๐Ÿ˜† )

                      (I'm very upset that Macgile have given up with the development of CameraKeyMaker. Drawing a 3d curve as a pilot for the camera was a brilliant and efficient idea.. I don't know if it is possible to do the same with Simfonia)

                      I would like to take this occasion, because your link leads to a site dedicated to MOI, to say to you how these videos are nice and inspirationnal (+ Faits divers dans Pilou_maison). I have made some learning of Moi, Moment of inspiration (Alternate trial version (No expiration but save disabled)) mainly by the help of these videos.

                      +++Simon.

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Sorry I have not yet study the camera! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                        There is something curious with this program, you can't easily use a curve made by SU, but yes from a curve made with Excel or Open Office for use values of them ! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                        I have asked this for the next version ๐Ÿ˜„

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • michaliszissiouM Offline
                          michaliszissiou
                          last edited by

                          A new tutorial for advanced users, http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?273033-Sculpting-with-UVs-and-displacements&p=2268060&viewfull=1#post2268060

                          It became impossible to post a decent link, how can I do this?

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                          • S Offline
                            sepo
                            last edited by

                            Amazing stuff Michalis....I've just seen this...

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                            • michaliszissiouM Offline
                              michaliszissiou
                              last edited by

                              Thanks sid.
                              Nothing new on this workaround.
                              It's just a well organized displacement.
                              The trick is to align a geometrical dipl pattern, a map, to the topology of the mesh. Blender UV editor is among the best around, the simpler, the easiest to use. Probably the best UV editor I have seen. (better than the fancy, full of expensive plugins, max2012 UV editor). I wonder, where the myth of the "sadistic" blender UI is coming from.

                              BTW, new, experimental, implementations like the wonderful cycles / hair rendering, the new dynamic topology sculpting option and much more, found the way to the trunk. So, download latest builds from:
                              http://www.graphicall.org/
                              or
                              http://builder.blender.org/download/

                              Have fun.

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                Just a little question
                                Does Blender has a similar function like the new Panel Loop who seems a new poweful concept for easy hard surfaces moving (see Dragon Flyer video By Pixolator) ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                  michaliszissiou
                                  last edited by

                                  Not at all Pilou
                                  Actually, I tried this zb workaround.
                                  Have a look http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?83616-the-wrestler-(WiP-museum_scene)&p=995522&viewfull=1#post995522
                                  Blender (as lot of other apps) has many tools to control all these loops.
                                  Zbrush is lost in a completely random workaround.
                                  Random is fine, but not that much.
                                  Zbrush also produces rather dirty topology this way.
                                  Things are getting complicated, as you have to retopo all these and bake maps on new UVs.
                                  To export to a video game engine. My guess, you hate it as much I hate it.
                                  Whatever.
                                  Here's a complete non sense.
                                  10 mins doodling. I wonder how much an advanced user of zbrush needs to do something like this.
                                  I post here Pilou, just watch the loops.


                                  po.jpg

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    Many thanks for all these infos and bravo for your visuals tests! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                                    by michaliszissiou

                                    http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=338699

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • majidM Offline
                                      majid
                                      last edited by

                                      seem blender is killing lots of strange and time consuming Su modelings easily, that is great for sure, though I have no need to such things in my architectural modelings, by the way that is really great!
                                      I remember the topic on complicated modeling inside SU! ๐Ÿ‘Š

                                      My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                                      • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                        michaliszissiou
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks Majid,
                                        Some heretic architecture, ๐Ÿ˜†
                                        Just playing with topology and UVs/displacements, something I can't do in SU.


                                        neoGothic1L.jpg

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                                        • pbacotP Offline
                                          pbacot
                                          last edited by

                                          At last a practical application! ๐Ÿ˜‰ This look incredible!

                                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            by Viralata (Blender dislacement) Cycles

                                            http://www.viralata.fr/wp-content/gallery/displacement/2rondscouleur.jpg

                                            http://www.viralata.fr/wp-content/gallery/displacement/zenentoussens.jpg

                                            http://www.viralata.fr/wp-content/gallery/displacement/carres.jpg

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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