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    • M Offline
      mwm5053
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      @ Dave I think your right, as usual.

      I have a problem doing these chisel racks I want them to have tapered slots. I made the hole with circle tool and push/pull then scale bottom hole 75% about center then draw lines accordingly as you can see in .skp the first one didn't really have a problem but the way they're made they could slip out not what I wanted after I took another look at it so in doing the second one ( rack) the first slot came out fine the way I wanted but in doing the following slots have some strange geometry resulting, even scaling by 1000. Something simple I'm missing I'm sure.


      chisel rack.skp


      chisel rack2.skp


      chisels.skp

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        I saw in chisel rack.skp some extra lines in the tapered slot. Deleting them resulted in the adjoining faces disappearing but I then traced along the top edges of the slot and the surface appeared to be heeled.

        Out of curiosity, how do you plan to create the tapered holes? If I were making chisel holders I would use counterbored holes instead of tapers because I could drill them without special tools. Then I would cut slots with parallel sides using a dado set in the table saw which would be very straightforward.

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        • M Offline
          mwm5053
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          The way you mentioned is the way buit them in my shop probably the best way to go. KISS as my shop teacher always told me.

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
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            Actually you should make the holder with tapered holes just because I want to see how you do it. 😆

            KISS is best. 😉

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            • M Offline
              mwm5053
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              Know a good tool and die man?


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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
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                😆

                I used to.

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                • M Offline
                  mwm5053
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                  I was being facetious by the way 🤣

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
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                    I know. There are boring tools for cutting tapered holes. Windsor chair makers and other chair makers for that matter would use them. There's probably one sold by Brian Boggs. Still, a couple of readily available Forstner bits would do the trick.

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                      mwm5053
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                      This is a scan of the article so I was just following as close as I could and see if I could do it in SU probably won't build it that way however. But after all it is a Craftsman Tool Chest.


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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        Ah. I see. That seems like a lot of work to me. Good SU practice, though.

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                        • boofredlayB Offline
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                          Aw man, I saw the title and thought you were making one of these. 😄


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                            mwm5053
                            last edited by

                            Check it out, it was a lot trouble but it was good practice I used your method in the stopped chamfers tut cut and paste in place and used the solid tools for the first time since I bought SU


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                              mwm5053
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                              @ Eric maybe someday. Here's peek I got so far


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                              • boofredlayB Offline
                                boofredlay
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                                That looks great. I long to make one of those myself someday. My tools are just laying around inside the cart I posted above, not very organized.

                                If I may, a visual tip with SU. If you turn your back face color to a black or near black you wont' get the white jaggies showing up in your image export.

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                                  mwm5053
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                                  Thanks Eric great suggestion 👍

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                                    Dave R
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                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    If I may, a visual tip with SU. If you turn your back face color to a black or near black you wont' get the white jaggies showing up in your image export.

                                    Yes, that's a good suggestion. I do that before I make image exports although I use my default green back face color while drawing.

                                    Walt, it looks like a good model. Keep up the good work.

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                                      Am I missing something? Seems to me that modeling a tapered hole and slot for the chisels is infinitely easier in SketchUp than in real life. In real life, I'd probably use a reamer, like the one Dave R. mentioned that Windsor chair makers use. In SU, I'd make a hole for the smallest diameter, then use the Offset Tool to set the largest diameter on the top face of the board. With the Move/Copy Tool, I'd pull the smaller diameter over to the larger one, tapering the hole. Then, for the slot, I'd turn on X-Ray view and hidden geometry. Trace over hidden geometry lines to mark where the tapered slot falls on the hole, then carry those lines through the board and across the faces. A little erasing, and I'm done. Took longer to type these abbreviated instructions than it did to do the modeling.
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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
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                                        David, I agree with you. Modeling it would be easier than making the real thing. I'd still just use the counterbored holes in real wood.

                                        I can think of several ways to create the tapered hole in SketchUp. Using Cardinal Points is one, Autofold, another.

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                                          mwm5053
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                                          As I agree with Dave I wouldn't go to the trouble to do the tapered holes in the shop a simple hole and dado as he said earlier but he sorta challenged to see if I could do it in SU so this is how I went about it. Circle tool, made cylinder to 1/16 more than top af taper with PP, scaled bottom of cylinder to ah better to just show you

                                          Sorry about video quality need to improve on that.

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
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                                            Good work, Walt.

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