Large circular lattice work
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Well my attempt didn't pan out. I got the lines drawn, but couldn't get a face on the drawing. I got Tig's to work, but I had a few problems there as well. With the small radius used in this yurt size, the slats do bend and I couldn't figure out a way to get the spacing right. After learning where to find draw helix, I figured out the correct inputs and got to step 4 without any problems. On step 5, Dave talks about "dividing those lines into three segments", not sure which lines that means. I thought it was the helix lines, but that didn't work. Tried the short line (didn't make sense,but what the 'ell), the only way I could get a face was to "stitch" I think you guys call it. Drawing smaller triangles to form a face. Did I do something wrong?
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@Pilou, That's what I thought I did. But I could have screwed up something that easy considering. So let's try it 1 more time.
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This time that's perfect for the file
but not for the shape Bender in a reasonnable time!
I stop the process fefore the end
I will see if replace the numerous same groups by a component will be more easy...
No same result
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Sorry for the delay in responding. I was teaching anesthesia machine nuts and bolts.
@lyconthrous said:
On step 5, Dave talks about "dividing those lines into three segments", not sure which lines that means.
I was referring to dividing the short lines drawn across the ends. Right click on them and choose Divide. I divided the lines into 3 segments. Then it is important to use Weld.rb to weld the lines back together.
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As your previous file has a very too big complex module
Maybe more something like this on 2 segments of an arc circle but
the curvated module result of the shape Bender has some no coplanar faces
(erased here with the Erase tool + Shift : so a little cheating!
So no good for a project, sufficient for an image
better with it to take some textures like my previous post if you don't want volumes
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@ Dave : have you thought of all users of the V6 Pro who have not made the upgrades ?
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To be honest, no. You're the only one here who ever asks for files to be posted in V6.
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Others are too shy!
I have found another one here!
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One?
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I have not made a deepth research!
Ps Have you seen that at 3Dwarehouse quasi all objects are proposed with different version files ? and V6 of course
That will be a cool thing that files posted at Sketchucation are automatically transformed in some basic versions!
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@ Pilou, I have been having the worst luck with Shape Bender. I've gotten a single slat to bend, but not much more. And I don't mind post a different version of file if it helps people to learn. But something tells me the guys (your friends) are not going to stop kidding you about it.
@ Dave, besides felling like an idiot, I'm still having problems. But I'm not giving up yet. I'm figuring out extrude edge by rail. Found a few pages that help explain it. Which help explain what I messed up before. If I can get it tonight, then I'll ask more questions.
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@ Dave, OK I got something right and I'm stooping till I know what I should do. I got the extrude to work.
But it has the stitch pattern that yours does not. Do I need to smooth or did I do something wrong?Here's the file for the door. The only difference between the 12, 14, or 16' yurts is the door wings. Some of the eye bolts are off size, which I'm planning on fixing later. But as you can see, the door is the most complicated part of the build. The khana or wall are just time consuming. And Pilou if you want a V6, let me know.
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Is it possible the "stitch pattern" is because you chose the "No" option for softening edges when running TIG's plugin? Or do you have Hidden Geometry turned on (View menu)?
As to the door, before you go on with it, we need to talk. For now, a couple of things will probably help you with your drawing. first, work with a style that does not have endpoints turned on. Second, work in monochrome face style and keep the back faces under control as you go. You could simplify your work if you would make components instead of groups and don't get all crazy creating nests of components (or groups). Check out the Outliner for this file. Click on the '+' icons where you see them in Outliner and notice all the groups and nested groups. That makes for a difficult model to edit and correct.
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@ Dave, I think I did say no to softening edges and I might have hidden on. I remember turning it on for something and might need to turn it off again. Plus after posting I noticed the back is open. So I'll be trying to do it different ways till I figure out what it does.
On the door, so I forgot to save after recoloring,
That was taken from a file I did a complete build up with over 50 different steps and color ideas. I started with the basic frame and grouped, add more parts and group. So on and so on. It kind of look like a tutorial in a way. An OLD habit for working out ideas. I normally do work in monochrome, and I'm not sure you mean by "work with a style that does not have endpoints turned on" but I will look into that. I had no idea that grouping like that make editing and correcting more difficult. It's just easier for me when I'm roughing out ideas. Guess I need to start using components more. Thanks again. -
@unknownuser said:
if you want a V6, let me know.
Of course yes, but what not save always in V6 ?
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Here's what I mean by endpoints. You also have extensions turned on in the style you are using.
And without endpoints and extensions. This is my default style. I normally work with Profiles set to 1 and the back face color set to green which make it easier for me to detect exposed back faces and fix them as I go. -
@ Dave, I've been using the default style that the program set up when it was installed. Until now, SU was a screw around program, something to play with. I started using it to help boy scouts get their architecture merit badge. A free program that would do the basics to get them by. Most of them use it in school as well as other projects they have. Not that long ago, 1 of the boys wanted to draw up a yurts for his merit badge. I opened AutoCad (2010) and showed he the files I had on yurts and gave him a copy of the pdf (if anybody wants me to upload it, just ask). Then for kicks, I did a (primitive/ basic shape) yurts. Well I was shown a few trick on how to draw it from Bran. The next few nights, I started to redesign the door frame and got something that worked (all in AC). Then I went back and redid the primitive yurts that I started with. Which I'm up loading. I can safely say that in the last week, I've easily double my knowledge of SU, triple my aggravation, and practiced my french (slang for cussing like a sailor) as much as when I'm forging. I own most of that to you. So a major Thank You again. I have since decided to learn how to use SU as a real program and not just some screw around toy to play with and that's why I'm here at the forum.
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@ Pilou, I don't know how to switch the default save to V6 and not sure I want to. When I get a project like the helix or Tig's design. I do a step by step save. That way I can go back and check where I might have screwed up and do the plug-ins that have multiple steps different ways to see how they work. Do I mind saving a file in V6. 'ell no. Besides it let's me get my post count up so I don't look like some noob.
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Seems you have a lot of groups and no name for them!
Very difficult to manage
When you have some pieces who are copied, don't use group!!!
Use components!
I can't make a simple copy rotations in a reasonable time!
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