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    • PixeroP Offline
      Pixero
      last edited by

      I'm always interested in seeing additions to animation for SketchUp.
      However there isn't really any detailed explanations what those "characteristics" of the different versions are?
      I cannot see any price information for the professional versions either. Not having prices in public always makes me suspicious.
      There are also some things that indicates limits of use even for the professional versions like web quota?

      Also I havent seen any info on what types of keyframe interpolation it has?
      What does the keyframe animation interface look like?

      All in all interesting but the product is not presented/packaged in a easy to understand way and the different licencing versions are confusing and makes choosing the right version difficult.
      In my opinion there shouldn't be more than 2 (or maybe max 3) different versions of a product.

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      • HumpmetwiceH Offline
        Humpmetwice
        last edited by

        @pixero said:

        I'm always interested in seeing additions to animation for SketchUp.
        However there isn't really any detailed explanations what those "characteristics" of the different versions are?
        I cannot see any price information for the professional versions either. Not having prices in public always makes me suspicious.
        There are also some things that indicates limits of use even for the professional versions like web quota?

        Also I havent seen any info on what types of keyframe interpolation it has?
        What does the keyframe animation interface look like?

        All in all interesting but the product is not presented/packaged in a easy to understand way and the different licencing versions are confusing and makes choosing the right version difficult.
        In my opinion there shouldn't be more than 2 (or maybe max 3) different versions of a product.

        Very well said and I also agree!

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        • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
          SimFonIA_team
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          Hello Pixero and humpmetwice,

          @unknownuser said:

          However there isn't really any detailed explanations what those "characteristics" of the different versions are?

          As said previously in this post the characteristics of different versions are available here : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/index.php?page=compare. But maybe the table is not clear (?), so feel free to ask more precise questions.

          @unknownuser said:

          I cannot see any price information for the professional versions either. Not having prices in public always makes me suspicious.

          I understand your distrust but it is a common practice for professional software. Several reasons for this:

          - The price is a strategic lever, especially for users who take several licenses. 
          
          
          - Exchanging with customers allows us to offer a product tailored to their needs.
          
          
          - Companies may have other needs, including services (training, special supports, modeling ..) 
          

          Thus, to get the price of professional licenses, simply send an email to contact.sat (at) Simfonia (dot) com to exchange B2B.

          @unknownuser said:

          All in all interesting but the product is not presented/packaged in a easy to understand way and the different licencing versions are confusing and makes choosing the right version difficult.
          In my opinion there shouldn't be more than 2 (or maybe max 3) different versions of a product.

          If you look at our offer, we can say that an individual user has everything he needs with the office Version. The professional licenses are indeed more dedicated to cloud, multi-team work, industrial support and specific applications. That said, do not hesitate to make suggestions about our version policy (for example if you want us to integrate additional options in the version of Office). We are on sketchucation in order to communicate about the tool but also to get feedback from the sketchup community.

          Best regards,
          SimFonIA_team

          P.S: About the "Key frame processor": I'll ask our developer team about the interpolation method. Regarding the interface, simply download the trial version to get an opinion.

          Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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          • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
            SimFonIA_team
            last edited by

            @pixero said:

            Also I havent seen any info on what types of keyframe interpolation it has?
            What does the keyframe animation interface look like?

              Hello Pixero,
            

            For the transformation Keyframes SAT uses Sketchup's algorithm, for deformation Keyframes SAT uses an algorithm of our own (based on linear interpolation between vertices) and for the camera Keyframe SAT uses a Catmull-Rom Spline.

            Does anyone in sketchucation tried to use the transformation processor? We understand that people are used to a classical workflow based on Keyframes, but the cornerstone of SAT is precisly the transformation processor.

            Regards,
            SimFonIA.team
            

            Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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            • C Offline
              congellous
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              Does this plug in work with OSX ?

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              • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                SimFonIA_team
                last edited by

                Hello all,

                Some time ago, I explained the concept of procedural animation to jgb in these terms:

                @unknownuser said:

                To understand the philosophy of external data-files, it is interesting to look our use of SAT. SimfonIa is indeed an engineering company. Our main task is to predict the behavior of complex systems like an aeronautical hydraulic pump, a battery for hybrid car or a smart-grid network for residential complex. A simple worflow would be:

                Our customer want to predict the fall of an apple => Newton gives us the gravitational equation => our simulator solve the equation => we deliver curves, Excel datasheets and analysis to our customer

                SAT was thus developed in order to emphasis the work with a video showing the result: the falling apple… That is what we call procedural animation. It is a really interesting perspective for customers to be able to see their product live instead of trying to imagine its movement from 10 stacked curves.

                And as a video is worth 1000 pictures, here is an illustration of the concept through a project that kept me busy lately.

                Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                  SimFonIA_team
                  last edited by

                  Hello all,

                  Firstly I wanted to thank you for the encouragement messages and for welcoming our designer during basecamp 2012 (a great adventure for him). Today we present you some "exotic" applications of our SU tools:

                  • The combination of SU and WebGL export allows for creating interactive assembly / disassembly manuals (think about your IKEA furniture ^^)

                  - In scientific computing we often need to decompose the physical phenomena in elementary meshes (lumped model, CFD ...). In order to easily visualize the results we are preparing an automatic meshes generator for SU.
                  

                  Best regards,
                  Julien From SimFonIA team
                  

                  Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                  • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                    SimFonIA_team
                    last edited by

                    Hello all,

                    Here is a video to show the possibilities of SAT. We illustrate how we might have intervene in the Vauban's Gateway of Patrick (http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=47725). From simple geometries concept to the object in its environment.

                    Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                    • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                      SimFonIA_team
                      last edited by

                      And to celebrate Christmas wee also have a special offer : -50% on SAT Office Version (200 €->100 €) and on SCA Extension (150 €->75 €). Available until 02 January 2013 )).

                      Quick-start guide to come ))

                      Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                      • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                        SimFonIA_team
                        last edited by

                        On the advice and with the help of Pilou we have created a quick-start guide for SAT.The objective is to present the philosophy of the transformation processor through the most frequently used functions: rotation and translation. The first part is a short introduction to SU and thus will not be interesting for most of you.

                        But the next two part will led you to rotate Pilou's weathervane! Normally, after that, nobody should say that our plugin is complicated))

                        If someone try the challenge we will be very interested in his feedback.

                        Best regards,
                        Julien from SimFonIA
                        

                        Quick_Start_Guide_en_V1.0.pdf


                        Girouette.skp


                        Girouette_mouvement_compose.skp

                        Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                        • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                          SimFonIA_team
                          last edited by

                          Hello All,

                          A few words to wish you an happy New Year and to thanks those who bought the plugin during this christmas offer. Don't hesitate to ask your question here or on our email adress if you have questions.

                          Best regards,
                          SimFonIA team

                          Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                          • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                            SimFonIA_team
                            last edited by

                            last word to remember you that today is the last day of our Christmas offer, do not miss this opportunity ))

                            Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                            • D Offline
                              driven
                              last edited by

                              @simfonia_team said:

                              do not miss this opportunity

                              Hi I tied not to miss this, but now I'm confused if it will all works on mac?

                              Error Loading File /Users/johns_iMac/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/simfonia/SimfoniaLoader.rb
                              (eval);18;in `require'; no such file to load -- /Users/johns_iMac/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/plugins/simfonia/PhysicControl/RubyControllerInterface.dllError Loading File simfonia.rb
                              (eval);18;in `require'; no such file to load -- /Users/johns_iMac/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/plugins/simfonia/PhysicControl/RubyControllerInterface.dll
                              

                              There's no obvious[to me] warning that it won't...

                              john

                              Edit: I just had time to revisit the site, to see if I'd missed the 'doesn't work on mac' warnings, and they are not there, I think they should be, I did leave a contact message so I guess I'll get a reply...

                              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                                SimFonIA_team
                                last edited by

                                Hello Driven,

                                I regret to announce that indeed the SAT plugin does not work on MAC. As specified in the first page of the installation manual, the plugin works under windows XP to seven, and Version 8 or higher of SkecthUp.

                                You're right, it does not appear clearly on the website and we will fix it. If you have purchased a paid version without the proper configuration we will fix the problem simply with the message on contact.

                                Unfortunate that you can not try the SAT beast...

                                Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                                • D Offline
                                  driven
                                  last edited by

                                  Cheers for the reply,
                                  I've been an avid follower since first announcements, and when i saw the 'offer' had some spare 'xmas' cash I thought I'd jump right in, I didn't read the installation instructions...
                                  Sort out the mac version, please!!!

                                  john

                                  ps I want it for stuff like this, so I can do them better...

                                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                                    SimFonIA_team
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi all,

                                         @driven,
                                    

                                    Normally, the problem was solved this morning, hoping that you are not too disappointed.

                                    @driven said:

                                    Sort out the mac version, please!!!

                                    I also believe that it would be a good idea, especially as many architects (who are mainly SU users) use MAC. The problem is mainly due to the use of dll to read the data contained in the scenario files, but it is not on our close agenda; the priority is rendering. But we like apple pie )).

                                    I must confess that I find it hard to understand the function of the object you posted in video. Our hypothesis is that it is a system for climbing ropes?
                                    In all cases it seems quite feasible for SAT!

                                       @sketchucation world
                                    

                                    We worked with Pilou to see what is the learning curve of our plugin. It results in the quick-start guide posted above and a series of video tutorials that Pilou has kindly made ​​(sorry it is in the language of Molière ^ ^).

                                    http://moiscript.weebly.com/deacuteformations.html
                                    http://moiscript.weebly.com/rotations-1.html
                                    http://moiscript.weebly.com/tableur.html
                                    http://moiscript.weebly.com/texte.html
                                    http://moiscript.weebly.com/visibility.html
                                    http://moiscript.weebly.com/table.html
                                    http://moiscript.weebly.com/discret.html

                                    Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                                    • D Offline
                                      driven
                                      last edited by

                                      @simfonia_team said:

                                           @driven,
                                      

                                      Normally, the problem was solved this morning, hoping that you are not too disappointed.

                                      Hi, thanks, got the email, any news on when a mac version will be available?

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      I must confess that I find it hard to understand the function of the object you posted in video.

                                      exactly why I keep looking for better ways of demonstrating this type of object...

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Our hypothesis is that it is a system for climbing ropes?

                                      originally, it was designed as a filament (soft 3mm 'plastic' cord) feed mechanism for a ''RepRap' style additive 3D printer. The Miga Motor is the size of a credit card.

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      In all cases it seems quite feasible for SAT!
                                      ...very

                                      john

                                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                      • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                                        SimFonIA_team
                                        last edited by

                                        I was editing my answer when you wrote your message :

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        I also believe that it would be a good idea, especially as many architects (who are mainly SU users) use MAC. The problem is mainly due to the use of dll to read the data contained in the scenario files, but it is not on our close agenda; the priority is rendering. But we like apple pie )).

                                        Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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                                        • D Offline
                                          dickorama
                                          last edited by

                                          I don't know if this has been covered yet, but will animated sequences export in pbx?

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                                          • SimFonIA_teamS Offline
                                            SimFonIA_team
                                            last edited by

                                            This is a very good news for MAC users: SAT, our SketchUp plugin for 3D animation, has been successfully tested on a Macbook Pro 2010 (OS X 10.8.2) with a “windows virtual machine”.

                                            To illustrate this, here is a video showing the installation of SAT on a MAC using the VM "Parallels Desktop for Mac 8". Now you can use SAT on your favorite computer!

                                            Give life to your ideas : http://www.simfonia.fr/SAT/

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