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    • cheddaC Offline
      chedda
      last edited by

      Jason, quick question my grass is always very dark, where in the sketch up plugin do i apply the mxm material ? Is it applied to the object you are generating grass on ?

      Kraken Wrangler https://www.flickr.com/photos/132441293@N03/

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      • jason_marantoJ Offline
        jason_maranto
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        You apply the grass in the modifier menu under Primitive>Material (see image for example).grass_matsetup.jpg

        Best,
        Jason.

        I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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        • cheddaC Offline
          chedda
          last edited by

          Thanks for the answer Jason how do i get it into the material window ?

          Kraken Wrangler https://www.flickr.com/photos/132441293@N03/

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          • jason_marantoJ Offline
            jason_maranto
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            Once you select a group to assign the grass modifier to you should be able to select it from a dropdown list -- click where it says "none" and a dropdown list should appear of all the materials you have already loaded into the scene.

            Best,
            Jason.

            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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            • cheddaC Offline
              chedda
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              Okay Jason i have it now, without the yellow folder dialog it threw me for a minute. I have to say i am very impressed, this type of power inside sketch up is a show stopper. I am doing a stress test on a 50x50m square, Maxwell is eating 3GB of ram, although the benchmark is crushingly low. For Archviz believable grass has been a hurdle with many workarounds. I have to say this beats, displacement,billboards, post-production and the fur plugin for sketch up for realism. With the right texture i think i will try a frosty winter scene at some point.

              Kraken Wrangler https://www.flickr.com/photos/132441293@N03/

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              • jason_marantoJ Offline
                jason_maranto
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                Yes, I agree -- I've been hopeful for tools like these ever since Maxwell started supporting hair/fur.

                Make sure to read the docs here: http://support.nextlimit.com/display/maxwelldocs/Grass#

                Particularly the "Level of Detail" parameters -- they can really help with keeping resource usage manageable when working inside SketchUp (although my preference is to work with Grass inside Maxwell Studio, so I can use all of my RAM).

                Best,
                Jason.

                I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                • N Offline
                  ninopiamonte
                  last edited by

                  I have a question,
                  I have Maxwell Render 2.6, fully licensed, but is it possible to upgrade/update to 2.7 without buying
                  and still licensed?
                  Btw, I have also download a 2.7 patch, but it tells that "Maxwell 2.0 could not be found in your system, The patch cannot be installed. Please reinstall Maxwell Render 2.0 to solve this problem."

                  Thanks,
                  NP

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                  • jason_marantoJ Offline
                    jason_maranto
                    last edited by

                    When you say you have Maxwell 2.6 are you talking about the full "Maxwell Render Suite" or the "Stand Alone Plugin"?

                    Both can be updated to 2.7 for free (assuming you have the previous version) but each has different installers and you would need to download the proper installer to successfully update.

                    If you want to, you can just download the full 2.7 installer (as opposed to the update installer) to have a clean install -- your license will work since it is valid for all 2.x releases of whichever type of Maxwell you purchased ("Stand Alone Plugin" or full "Render Suite").

                    If you persists in having issues it is best to ask the devs directly on the Maxwell forum.

                    Best,
                    Jason.

                    I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                    • cheddaC Offline
                      chedda
                      last edited by

                      Here is my test, i'm quite pleased with the outcome.


                      grass test.jpg

                      Kraken Wrangler https://www.flickr.com/photos/132441293@N03/

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                      • jason_marantoJ Offline
                        jason_maranto
                        last edited by

                        That looks really nice!

                        I've done some tests that I've been pleased with as well. Here's one that incorporates a leaf litter MXM for the ground (textures originally free from http://www.photosculpt.net/) -- in this case I used 2 grass modifiers stacked(with different seed values), one for green grass and one for "dried" yellow grass, using a density map for both:grasstest2.jpg
                        The yellow grass is down low to the ground, with altered geometry settings to help integrate the grass better into the "leaf litter" base. The green grass is just the MXM I linked in the first post.

                        Best,
                        Jason.

                        I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                        • cheddaC Offline
                          chedda
                          last edited by

                          Okay Jason that's super bad (meaning good) i'm kinda gobsmacked.

                          Kraken Wrangler https://www.flickr.com/photos/132441293@N03/

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                          • M Offline
                            Mainline411
                            last edited by

                            Do I need Maxwell to run this if not how do I install and use it?

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                            • jason_marantoJ Offline
                              jason_maranto
                              last edited by

                              Yes, it is part of the Maxwell plugin, the grass is generated inside Maxwell at render-time based on the parameters you specify.

                              Best,
                              Jason.

                              I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                              • M Offline
                                Mainline411
                                last edited by

                                @jason_maranto said:

                                Yes, it is part of the Maxwell plugin, the grass is generated inside Maxwell at render-time based on the parameters you specify.

                                Best,
                                Jason.

                                So Maxwell is payware?

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                                • BurkhardB Offline
                                  Burkhard
                                  last edited by

                                  You can have a standalone version for free and for a small fee ( better Renderprocess and higher output )
                                  Grass is restricted to 1 object + 1 grass type with the free version

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                                  ...and the Maxwell Suite.

                                  [http://www.ia-plus.de(http://www.ia-plus.de)]

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                                  • utilerU Offline
                                    utiler
                                    last edited by

                                    @jason_maranto said:

                                    Yep, at $195 that is a really nice solution for the user who wants more power than the $95 "stand-alone" SketchUp plugin, but doesn't need huge renders or network rendering. The really nice thing about that is it includes all of the Maxwell plugins free (including the SketchUp plugin) -- so you could use Maxwell with several different packages (as I do).

                                    I also found the Maxwell integration into Artlantis to be a rather interesting tidbit: http://www.artlantis.com/index.php?page=products/studio/news

                                    Best,
                                    Jason.

                                    I wasn't aware that I could have paid $195.00 for a 'never to expire' licence rather I believe the $95.00 option was only available when it was released.... I bit annoying that I have to now paid again. 😲

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                                    • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                      jason_maranto
                                      last edited by

                                      Pay again? I'm not sure what you mean -- the license doesn't expire... none of them do.

                                      Best,
                                      Jason.

                                      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                      • utilerU Offline
                                        utiler
                                        last edited by

                                        I was reffering to this Jason but then realised that is was for education purposes.... my bad. 😳


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                                        • pietervP Offline
                                          pieterv
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello Jason,

                                          What's up? 😉

                                          Can the grass in Maxwell 2.7 also be applied on more organic terrain in sketchup? I have tried but these "cracks" appear... Can you help me with this please? Thanks!

                                          http://www.citypixels.be/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sloped-hill.jpg

                                          http://www.citypixels.be/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/simpel-huis-render-008.jpg

                                          This is my website:
                                          Citypixels - 3d Visualisatie Architectuur

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                                          • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                            jason_maranto
                                            last edited by

                                            It can be used on such surfaces -- however there was a bug in the 2.7 release that revealed density control problems with subdivided surfaces. This was alleviated in the 2.7.10 release:

                                            http://support.nextlimit.com/display/maxwelldocs/2.7.10+release+notes

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                                            Also, when working in Maxwell Studio it is best to stack several grass modifiers on one piece of geometry (to mix the randomization in several ways) -- which IMO gives a more naturalistic look. However this is a bit difficult to do in the current SketchUp plugin so I don't recommend you try it there.

                                            Best,
                                            Jason.

                                            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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