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      bjornkn
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      Ah, so that hole is not a hole in the mesh, but an actual hole then?

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        museummaker
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        Related webinar

        http://www.gisuser.com/content/view/26233/2/

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          Roger
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          Elephant on masonite
          I trimmed some of the foliage and change the angle so you could see how the trunk reconnects to the wall. If time allows I will do more experiments with metrics tomorrow.

          http://www.azcreative.com

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            bjornkn
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            Looks like a relative of Zorro πŸ˜‰
            Is it the UV mapping that messes up the texturing?
            Strange trunk/model BTW.
            Have you also tried other "3D scanners", like http://www.agisoft.ru/products/photoscan/
            Or Photomodeler Scanner?

            So far I really prefer the results that can be had from tgi3D Photoscan πŸ˜„
            I love the way it combines full control with "shrink-wrapping" meshes.

            Being in the pockets of Autodesk (or should it be said the other way around?) isn't what I want the most πŸ˜‰
            It is very sad how they have bought most of the 3D competition 😞
            Good to know that SketchUp is "safe" now;)

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              Anssi
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              One example of a virtual tour in an archaeological subject was this Flash movie about Marcus Lucretius's house in Pompeji that was made by Finnish 3D (probably 3D Studio) students in close collaboration with the archaeologists.

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              (arkisto.metropolia.fi)

              Anssi

              securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                Gaieus
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                About 10 years ago, we made this with 5 other, Roman sirtes. The "interactivity" is only for some of them but there are stunning videos, too.
                Note that 3D rendering as well as screen resolutions and bandwidth was much slower/smaller than nowadays...

                i-MSCP internet - Multi Server Control Panel - Error 404

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                (www.h2g2.hu)

                Gai...

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                  bjornkn
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                  Funny how small everything was in the old days πŸ˜‰
                  Nice design and GUI, but unfortunately none of the popup images/windows worked (I suppose that's where the stunning videos were hiding?)
                  That Finnish site had a nice video, but not so much interactivity. A bit too linear?

                  Here's a couple of my oldies:
                  http://bknilssen.no/video/GolBygg_0000.MOV
                  How to build a stave church - 13 years old, made with trueSpace.
                  It was actually run interactively with IBM software on a site which I think may still be alive today, but hidden/passworded, because it was part of a course in art history at the University of Bergen. The first such online course in this country anyway, at that level. I made a lot of different buildings, art exhibitions etc for them, and had a great time. πŸ˜„
                  http://sapmi.uit.no is newer - only 7 years old. This is the type of VR I think is what is possible today, only in Flash, and much larger, and with a lot more bells and whistles. And then make a very simplified version for those non-Flash users with iOS...
                  I'm currently working on a similar VR exhibition for that University/museum. And that's also the guys/gals who want those 4 archeological mini web exhibitions.

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                    Gaieus
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                    @bjornkn said:

                    unfortunately none of the popup images/windows worked (I suppose that's where the stunning videos were hiding?)

                    Well, they open for me - when I allow popups from that site. Your popub blocker is too efficient. Here is a video of my place:
                    http://www.h2g2.hu/peregrinus/movie/septichora.html
                    but the vidos of the Spanish sites are incredible. Like this one:
                    http://www.h2g2.hu/peregrinus/movie/movie_viewfromthesea.html
                    You can open them into a new tab by middle clicking the links. πŸ˜„
                    (Also old school webdesign putting things into popups...)

                    Gai...

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                      bjornkn
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                      Well, the pop-ups popped up, but there was nothing in the window, except for a small red X.
                      Some other popup windows asked permission to open, and then they opened an overlaid panoramic image at the top left of the screen (no window, just showed on top of the menus and icons etc).

                      I could see those nice videos now though, with the new direct links πŸ˜„
                      Maybe the tour didn't like Opera?

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                        Gaieus
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                        There was probably no Opera when this website was designed! πŸ˜„

                        Gai...

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                          bjornkn
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                          Opera was started in 1994, with the first public version released in 96!
                          But it still is forgotten every now and then... ;-(
                          We have to support the locals, you know πŸ˜‰

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                            Gaieus
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                            I also have Opera. One never knows... πŸ˜’

                            Gai...

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                              Roger
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                              @bjornkn said:

                              Looks like a relative of Zorro πŸ˜‰
                              Is it the UV mapping that messes up the texturing?
                              Strange trunk/model BTW.
                              Have you also tried other "3D scanners", like http://www.agisoft.ru/products/photoscan/
                              Or Photomodeler Scanner?

                              So far I really prefer the results that can be had from tgi3D Photoscan πŸ˜„
                              I love the way it combines full control with "shrink-wrapping" meshes.

                              Being in the pockets of Autodesk (or should it be said the other way around?) isn't what I want the most πŸ˜‰
                              It is very sad how they have bought most of the 3D competition 😞
                              Good to know that SketchUp is "safe" now;)

                              It is an elephant not a fox.
                              Not sure if I understand what you mean by messed up texturing as more than one rendition has been posted. On the first post there were not enough photo samples from enough angles. This last piece was not the original app, it was the prodeuct of that app exported to SU. The only purose was to show how the trunk looped around and reconnected.
                              Don't blame me for the quality of the Thai sculpture.
                              I just tried the AutoDesk tool because the beta is free, but will look into the agisoft

                              http://www.azcreative.com

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                                bjornkn
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                                @roger said:

                                It is an elephant not a fox.
                                Not sure if I understand what you mean by messed up texturing as more than one rendition has been posted. On the first post there were not enough photo samples from enough angles. This last piece was not the original app, it was the prodeuct of that app exported to SU. The only purose was to show how the trunk looped around and reconnected.
                                Don't blame me for the quality of the Thai sculpture.

                                Sorry about the confusion. It was the last render, where there were some dark grey bands with a hole it in, which made it look like it was wearing a Zorro mask (or racoon?). I wasn't blaming you for neither the texturing nor the sculpture. SU very easily loses UV mapping and scrambles everything.

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                                  Roger
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                                  Using 123D Catch from autoCAD I was relatively pleased with the elephant which is fairly complex form so I thought I would test a simple case like a box for dimensional accuracy and I ended up with some surrealistic and cubistic, but not rectilinear results. I would love to sit down and wrestle this thing to the ground but I am moving down close to the Mexico border and also have an important photojob to do and need to sell the Phoenix house. When and if things slow down I will give this 123D thing another run.

                                  http://www.azcreative.com

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