Any pointers for rendering?
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Thanks Tony, I appreciate your comments, seriously appreciate folk taking the time to consider the render. Looking into the points you mentioned and will get back when I have addressed them.
Rendering seems to me to be more of an art than a science but I reckon the science bit needs to be addressed too. I just wish the whole thing was more scientific and less hit and miss. Or perhaps I need to read a few more tuts.
The coffee table is probably way too tall but it was meant to be a stop gap until I could make something better.
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What's going on with the sharp shadow-line on the ceiling behind the TV wall?
The floor is also wider-plank than I'd expect, but not unreasonable.The biggest factor keeping it from photorealism is grunge and mistakes. Clutter, that kind of thing.
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A last pop at this render before I call it a day. The shadow is caused, I reckon, by the use of a ceiling as a light unit - even if it is only low powered at 14watts. Only thing I can think of. Clutter is something I am looking at coffee cups and a magazine or two and something plant like for the near wall on the right side (foreground). I would have got a picture of my sisters but not sure the monitor can take that kind of punishment.
I am most gratefull for folk taking the time to make suggestions, makes this process a little more like rendering and less like a deadline.
No rug yet but looking to make one soon.
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Mike,
I think you are off to a good start. What your missing are the small details. Things like baseboard, light switches, power outlets, etc can really pull a render together. The coffee table is way out of scale. The tv, I think because of its distorted scale, becomes the overall focal point. It draws your eye until you can figure out what is going on with it. What the render is really missing is a quality ambient occlusion. I also think the large sculpture is out of place. Like I said it is a good start but has a ways to go. What has helped me is looking at interior design magazines and studying what makes a nice interior image.
Scott
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Thanks Scott, not used ambient oclusion and no clue how to tbh. SOmething to look up.
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I have added some 2d people. Not happy but the choice is somewhat limited as far as I can see.
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Hi, Mike. Nice job so far! Interior renderings are always so much work. If you are still interested in some comments here are my two (-and-ten) cents:
- Could you put the TV flat on the shorter wall? I think the TV in the corner looks awkward.
- I think the floor and ceiling could use a little reflection. Not much, but everything except the coffee table looks a little flat. Just a hint (or more) of some glossy reflections could help.
- Bloom could also help soften things up. I don't know if Renditioner does bloom, but you can always Photoshop it quite easily. You could also add some lens refraction effects on the ceiling lights. Might be distracting, but might work.
- Speaking of ceiling lights, there are quite a few! Maybe take some of the recessed lights out and and add some floor lamps or even a hanging light over the dining table?
- I like the idea of a feature wall, but the brick texture isn't quite right. Perhaps just a different color paint?
- The race car needs a frame and glass. It looks like a poster, which isn't all that classy.
- Not sure who lives here, but these two ladies are very distracting. One trick I like to use is a little horizontal motion blur in Photoshop. It gives the illusion of a long-exposure photograph. Oh, and when scaling people, make sure all their eye levels roughly line up. The blonde is much too tall and makes the space seem short. Somebody sitting on the near couch facing away from the camera might be less distracting. I like to make up stories about the people I put in my renderings, figure out what they are doing. I think that often makes them seem more natural (or maybe I'm just kidding myself, but it makes my life more fun).
And just to reiterate, this is a really nice rendering already. I think everybody agrees about that. Just trying to help you kick it up to the next level. Good luck!
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Nice work. I like following the thread so I might learn something as you figure it out. Yes the ladies are distracting. (I think either a very rich teen age boy or a race car driver lives here. Who else would have an F1 photo as art and such visitors?)
But on a serious note, I find the light effects on the ceiling distracting, however they are caused. That would be the first fix I would look for. Other stuff is coming along nicely.
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I am very geartful for the comments and suggestions. I reckon it is a hard thing to criticise someone else's work in case they go 'off on one', cannot take it etc. The comments and suggestions here are being taken to heart and I will carefully analyse what I am doing with my approach to hopefully improve. I have seen other folk here, almost step over a line and there is a palpable shift in results which I hope to emulate. Something which is only going to be possible thanks to other folk taking time and thought to put their experience into words. Thanks guys, very much.
Just a thought, this is turning into a proper wip so if someone wants to move this thread it may be more appropriate elsewhere.
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Hi, Mike:
Technically, if the two figures are the same height, their eye levels would be about the same in standard perspective?
Just for kicks I did a study model of the layout of your scene, building rough mockups of all of the furniture, and visually estimating distances. I assume the ceiling is 8 feet? And by proportion, the width of the open space is about 26 feet? Is there kitchen with dining beyond the TV wall? What happens in the space where the camera is located, and what happens beyond the wall with the plant on the right? -
The ceiling height is 8' and the width is a bit more than 26' but that is not important. The two characters are different heights.
The area behind the television is the kitchen which will have a small breakfast bar the dining area is on the right by the brick wall. The space where the camera is located is access through patio doors to the garden and beyond my mother in law's tongue is a lift and stairs. The building is intended to be 100% less abled friendly so the lift is not one of those afterthoughts stuck in the space of a closet.
PS. my mother in law's tongue has been scaled down so as not to be too intrusive (unlike my mother in law) and is decidedly less prickly too.
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