Now cannot hold shift and zoom in and out with mouse wheel?
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I'm confused, you got an HP or a mac? ctrl-cmd pan and orbit on a mac and you want to do that on a windows machine? If so, it is to press down on the scroll wheel. That is orbit. Then add shift to it and its pan.
Is that what you meant?
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Sorry...maybe this will clarify what i'm looking to do.
I would like to have the option to work in sketchup without a mouse and still have a decent level of productivity. Specifically at times when there it is not convienent or there is not room to whip out a wireless mouse...for example, when i'm riding the bus into work, on a plane, etc. I found out on this post and through other research that Sketchup developed a work around for MAC users that didn't have a center button on their mouses so that they could pan and orbit by holding down ctrl, command, and shift keys instead of pressing down a center mouse button. For mac users, the added benefit is that they can use the same key combinations with their trackpads. What i'm hoping for is a similar solution for PC users.
Any ideas?
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I think unless you have a multi touch trackpad on your PC Laptop, you're out of luck... The whole trick on the mac is based around the gesture (two finger) scrolling...
A lot of the new PC laptops coming out have multitouch, but I haven't played with one yet to know if Sketchup supports it.
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I cannot believe how many unhelpful replies there are on this thread.
The reason for this thread- as has been stated- is that you want to hold shift a lot while zooming in and out, not to modify the command (OBVIOUSLY) but to lock on an axis- I do this constantly on my PC at work.
The problem is, on a mac, when you hold shift, the scroll wheel stops zooming-
Has anyone found a solution yet?
-- I have a mac at home and I'd love for my workflow to be the same.
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Actually, I think there are a few good solutions in there. Don't forget everyone here is volunteering to help each other out with problems. Using the trackpad on the Mac is fantastic, and a great way to use Sketchup.
To answer your question directly:
When using the scroll wheel on the PC, AND pushing shift to lock an inference does work at the same time, on the Mac, pressing the shift key during a zoom operation using an external mouse with a wheel does cause the zoom operation to stop. If you do it with the Mac trackpad, you can zoom and press shift at the same time.
It looks like this is by design, I cannot see any way to change this.
My recommendation, use the arrow keys to lock an inference, not the shift key. Left and right are red and green, and up or down is blue.
If that's not acceptable, a 3D Connexion 3D mouse is a great way to be able to zoon during any command.
Lastly, you could just adapt to what is a really minor change. I use Mac's and PC's all the time. Some with trackpads, some with mice, some with 3D Mice. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. Rather than letting a minor detail slow you down, learn to work around it and you'll become a better modeler for it.
Does this help?
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@unknownuser said:
I think unless you have a multi touch trackpad on your PC Laptop, you're out of luck... The whole trick on the mac is based around the gesture (two finger) scrolling...
A lot of the new PC laptops coming out have multitouch, but I haven't played with one yet to know if Sketchup supports it.
eric.. gotta disagree with you here..
two-finger-scrolling zooms.. sketchup doesn't have a gesture for orbiting on mac (a couple of other apps do have this ability and it super sweet but....)
anyway, the control-cmmd shortcut on mac is a legacy thing in sketchup dating back to when everyone seemed to think "oh.. macs? ..psshh.. you can only use one button mice on those toys"
on mac, you can press and hold control-command then orbit with the left mouse button (i.e.- temporary orbiting in the same way middle mice button usually function in sketchup..)
but it still comes in very handy and i'm glad the devs haven't removed it.. if you're working on a mactop (
), you zoom with the two-finger scroll and orbit with these keys.. i'm equally comfortable drawing with a trackpad as i am with a mouse.. -
I am not sure what part you're disagreeing with, it sounds like you're agreeing with me...
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@caleb said:
I cannot believe how many unhelpful replies there are on this thread.
The reason for this thread- as has been stated- is that you want to hold shift a lot while zooming in and out, not to modify the command (OBVIOUSLY) but to lock on an axis- I do this constantly on my PC at work.
The problem is, on a mac, when you hold shift, the scroll wheel stops zooming-
Has anyone found a solution yet?
-- I have a mac at home and I'd love for my workflow to be the same.
no.. you can't do this on mac.. you can do it on mac if you're using a trackpad..
[off:10j9bm8q](and that's not the real solution anyway.. the real solution is to be able to press a mod key, such as tab, then let go of it but the axis lock is maintained.. and, you should be able to do this on any vector.. not just x,y,z.. but, i'm sure there will be some people to come in and tell me.. "no, sketchup works perfect.. you're stupid" )[/off:10j9bm8q]
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@unknownuser said:
I am not sure what part you're disagreeing with, it sounds like you're agreeing with me...
you said "The whole trick on the mac is based around the gesture (two finger) scrolling..."
the dude was talking about orbiting.. **(see below)
gestures on mac laptops have nothing to do with orbiting in sketchup..
(they should... they could.. but they dont)anyway.. he's looking for a modifier key(s) on windows that will invoke the temporary orbit feature.. is there one?
(because if there isn't, it sounds basically impossible to draw with any sort of finesse on a pc laptop without a mouse)
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here's sketchup 4 quick reference card.. notice the mouse options.. i don't have an old reference card for windows so if anyone does, look for anything like this on there.. (the newer quick ref cards don't show this feature even though they still work)
**hmm.. actually, maybe it's me that is confused.. i don't know if youre talking to the OP from a year ago or the dude that recently bumped the thread with an offtopic question.. eric, for sake of keeping me less confused, would you mind using the quote feature of these forums so we can see who you're talking to or give us some more context surrounding your reply? thanks
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@unknownuser said:
My recommendation, use the arrow keys to lock an inference, not the shift key. Left and right are red and green, and up or down is blue.
oh.. hey.. that's actually a great suggestion.. (one that i definitely wasn't aware of)..
it may take some getting used to (like anything else) but once you got it.. you got it..
[edit].. confusing thread.. two separate conversations/topics woven together lol..
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oh.. for the trackpad parts of this thread, let's not forget we don't need a laptop to utilize their features.. we have this option as well..
http://www.apple.com/magictrackpad/
those things are sweet
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