Did a God or Gods create the universe? EDITED
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These verses seem apropos to this thread. Draw your own conclusions.
Romans 1:22 - Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, ...
Mark 13:13 - And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mark 13:30-37
30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
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Why this animated gif, that 'simon le bon' posted in another thread, why does it remind me what we're all trying to say here?
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/BoiteStop.gif
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@michaliszissiou said:
Why this animated gif, that 'simon le bon' posted in another thread, why does it remind me what we're all trying to say here?
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/BoiteStop.gif
Great animation IMO. Thank you simon.Simon's gif reminds me of a project we did in design school that required we demonstrate the use of levers. I designed this little blue panel that his a series of lever. The last lever was exposed and labeled pull in this direct. When the instructor came to critique my project, he pulled the lever and another lever moved forward with a banker's pin pointed at the handle of the first lever.
I don't remember my grade.
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Always liked this one:
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So have we found the answer yet....?
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@solo said:
@juanv.soler said:
but it is not to believe if eternity exists or not
it is a fact for the universe
The universe will last for eternity? I'm struggling to understand you Juan.
I am sorry for the delay solo. I have had my laptop broken for a few days.
What I try to say is that the universe exists by itself
and we do not, we get in here for a time and we go.
In that sense the universe seems eternal for us.
And what I think about why we hardly try to find its creator its because I think we would like to last at least the same time that the universe.But in any case, so far, so good. We are alive now and that is what matters.
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@Boofredlay:
Not having had the opportunity to read "Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe", I did not grasp that subtlety. I just dismissed it as possibly Verse 42 of the preceding biblical citations, and did not have a chance to look any further. -
[flash=853,505:1l9djrev]http://www.youtube.com/v/aboZctrHfK8&fs=1[/flash:1l9djrev]
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"How many roads must a man walk down?"
@unknownuser said:
Not having had the opportunity to read "Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe"
It's never too late.
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The Word of God is clear. See for example Job 12:7-10 (in the Bible)!
(New International Version):
“But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you. Which of all these does not know that the hand of the LORD has done this? In his hand is the life of every creature and the breath of all mankind.”(Amplified Bible):
“For ask now the animals, and they will teach you [that God does not deal with His creatures according to their character]; ask the birds of the air, and they will tell you; Or speak to the earth [with its other forms of life], and it will teach you; and the fish of the sea will declare [this truth] to you. Who [is so blind as] not to recognize in all these [that good and evil are promiscuously scattered throughout nature and human life] that it is God's hand which does it [and God's way]? In His hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.”Draw your own conclusion!
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The Bible was written by men, but they were inspired by the Holy Spirit, and some parts are even directly dictated by divinity...!
Jesus told His contemporaries: “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away” , and He was right…: Any prophecy of Scripture that was already fulfilled, it turned like, to the smallest details! God, does not lie!
“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
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I'm not really sure what your video has to do with the subject of this thread but it did lead me to this rather interesting Christian viewpoint.
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I saw that before, appalling yes but I also read that she did that as a "joke" mocking Christians.
That is certainly not the view of this Christian I assure you.
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What I've noticed on this thread:
Some people act like having the obligation to declare their faith. That's too bad... tooooo bad. Sorry.
Please, make sure that your religion is a matter between you and God only. -
@solo said:
@box said:
I'm not really sure what your video has to do with the subject of this thread but it did lead me to this rather interesting Christian viewpoint.
Freakazoid!
Lentil season? Everyone sits around and eats lentil soup? Japanese are Buddhist, Shinto, and Christian with a few atheists thrown in to round out the mix. Humor or lunacy or lunatic humor? -
@michaliszissiou said:
What I've noticed on this thread:
Some people act like having the obligation to declare their faith. That's too bad... tooooo bad. Sorry.
Please, make sure that your religion is a matter between you and God only.That makes sense from a non-Christian point of view but you have to understand that Christians believe others are missing out on something great, at best, or in eternal danger, at worst. From that point of view it's like suggesting your neighbor just keep it to themselves when they come over to make sure you know your house is on fire. Penn of Penn and Teller fame, who's a devout atheist makes a good point on this in saying he's highly in favor of people sharing their faith and welcomes the discussions. If they believe it, it would be immoral not to share it.
Besides, this is a thread about God. It would be a bit different if it was a thread about ThomThom's latest cleanup ruby.
-Brodie
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