Act of God.
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Marian, you're joking...
You do not open the Bible, but you think you know better about it, but billions of people who have studied it and adopted it.Give me an example of contradiction in it!
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@unknownuser said:
Marian, you're joking...
You do not open the Bible, but you think you know better about it, but billions of people who have studied it and adopted it.Give me an example of contradiction in it!
Are you asking for examples of contradictions in the bible?
If yes, I'll start a new thread as there are so many it will need to be an entire new topic.
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@unknownuser said:
Marian, you're joking...
You do not open the Bible, but you think you know better about it, but billions of people who have studied it and adopted it.Give me an example of contradiction in it!
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/bible-contradictions
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OK, Solo, start with one of them...!
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I'm actually amazed Cornel that you are not aware of any contradictions in the bible, the book you done research on for decades, as you said. Either your sight is bad or don't know how to read.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
I hope you're not going to tell me those are not valid because I didn't do the reasearch myself.
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@marian said:
I'm actually amazed Cornel that you are not aware of any contradictions in the bible, the book you done research on for decades, as you said. Either your sight is bad or don't know how to read.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
I hope you're not going to tell me those are not valid because I didn't do the reasearch myself.
When you live your life with blinkers on you never get to see the big picture.
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Marian, give me AN EXAMPLE, not a list!
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The census of Quirinius (Cyrenius) and Herod the Great were not contemporary...they were separated by at least 9 years. This is a matter of historical record. So which was it...the journey to Bethlehem or the Massacre of the Innocents...you can't have both.
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@unknownuser said:
Marian, give me AN EXAMPLE, not a list!
You can not to choose any example from the list?
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@unknownuser said:
Maybe God hadn't invented spellchecker on his Apple Mac?
At least now we know God made apples but man made WindowsSteve Job created the world, with a little help from Chuck Norris (must admit).
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@solo said:
When you live your life with blinkers on you never get to see the big picture.
Truly sad and pitiful
@unknownuser said:
Marian, give me AN EXAMPLE, not a list!
Why? Just pick one from the lists.
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@ 'Alan F.'
Herod the Great ruled 37-4 BC, but the current calendar is wrong, with several years difference. After him, was Herod Archelaus, who ruled 4BC-6AD.
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I do know those simple things, but what have they...or a later change of calendar...got to do with it? Quirinius wasn't appointed governor until the Romans had to impose direct rule after Herod Archelaus was driven from power in 6-7 AD...a decade later...and by the same calendar
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‘Alan F’, you probably know just as in A.D. 6 the emperor dispached Quirinius to Syria, and, at the same time, Coponius was named guvernor of Judea, and the two did conduct a Census.
According to some historians, this is the second time Quirinius was governor in Syria, and because of that, in the Bible, we have such a mention, at Luke 2:1-2:
“[In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. This was the FIRST Census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria. And everyone went to their own town to register.]”So Luke knew about at least 2 Quirinius Census...!
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An interesting documentary
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@unknownuser said:
According to some historians, this is the second time Quirinius was governor in Syria
Yes, some 'historians' like yourself, eager to rewrite history to fit with the Gospels. There is not an iota of evidence to support that claim, either from Roman or Jewish sources. Nor was there any such need for a governor with a Tetrarch still in place.
In fact, there's no real evidence for a census at this time at all...and it's unheard of to demand that everyone travel to their city of origin just to participate in one...a totally unnecessary logistical and administrative nightmare.
Most ordinary christians wouldn't have a problem with this. The author of Luke made a mistake. Big deal. It's only a problem if you take the Bible to be the infallible word of God.
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Alan F., if you can not check someone, does not mean that the respective is wrong!
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@unknownuser said:
Alan F., if you can not check someone, does not mean that the respective is wrong!
You have no a complete list about all Census...I don't need a complete list of all censuses; I only need the one mentioned in the Bible.
It could well be that the census of biblical fame was an earlier, pre-Quirinian census that was actually carried out during the reign of Herod the Great...but that's not what Luke tells us. There is, in fact, no record of any census carried out by Quirinius...but Luke says there was...and that is clearly at odds with it being during Herod's reign, because they are a decade apart.In any case, you creationist types are far too handy at reversing the argument and putting the burden of negative proof on the other party...like demanding people prove there is no god, instead of you proving that there is. Your own position is marked by a total lack of evidence of any kind.
It's a matter of historical record that Quirinius was made governor of Syria in 6 AD. If you claim that he was made governor at least 10 years earlier than that, prove it. If you can't then it's simply a case of you making stuff up to defend an indefensible position.
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‘Alan', if re. Quirinius you have no sufficient historical data, do not despair!
You said there are many contradictions in the Bible, so, come with a new well founded one!
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Cornelius is running out of bible quotes.
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