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    • Mike LuceyM Offline
      Mike Lucey
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      Just learn that Bloomberg has put the boot in on 'Health and Safety' issues! I also looks like he is on very thin ice as far as the Courts and concerned. Read this,

      Michael Bloomberg's health and safety arguments weak, say lawyers
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/15/michael-bloomberg-health-safety-weak?newsfeed=true

      But again, what else would one expect from one Michael R. Bloomberg with credentials and a background as outlined in the his WiKi!
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

      I thought that the '1%' were playing it cool, but it now looks that they may be igniting a fire that will not easily be extinguished!

      The USA may have a lot of faults BUT one fault that it does not have is a lack of Freedom of Speech and this action, will I think, bring many fence sitter off the fence. Not for reasons that they agree with the protestors, but that they believe the protestors have the right to do so!

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      • S Offline
        sepo
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        hmm...so much for democrasy and right to protest.

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        • pbacotP Offline
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          IDK...

          The USA has the TENETS of the right to Freedom of Speech, but the right has to be defended, defined, and (apparently) threatened in each generation. This is no different than before. Just as one may set forth an enlightened concept of freedom and still own slaves, Freedom of Speech is imperfect in the beginning and always evolving. Once again, the good old days were not so good, and I don't see a change here.

          That said (and while I am sympathetic--don't get me wrong), we don't really have a right to obstruct commerce or occupy public spaces indefinitely. This is where "civil disobedience" comes into play and this is also a long-standing tradition (see Boston Tea Party, Henry David Thoreau, Martin Luther King). By definition CD isn't part of the rule of law, but it has a purpose in any society that HAS the rule of law and civil rights, AND half a conscience. But those who engage in it are usually resigned to the consequences, which can be deadly.

          But you're right about this creating a chance for greater sympathy and support--and the point of the confrontation is to stir the hornets' nest in the first place. So we have the official backlash to something like the Berkeley Free Speech Movement fueling the following Peace movement and (white) sympathies for the Civil Rights movement in the US, all from a few troublemakers. Here's to the troublemakers! 😎

          Peter

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          • Mike LuceyM Offline
            Mike Lucey
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            .... well sometimes its good to make trouble! I see the same thing happening in London, although the powers that be seem to be doing it a little more politely, pinning eviction notices to the tents 😒

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            • kenK Offline
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              I found this 1934 cartoon. Not much has changed.


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              Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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              • soloS Offline
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                [flash=640,400:1w4bfsuk]http://www.youtube.com/v/ynaAoYn8K7E&feature=player_detailpage[/flash:1w4bfsuk]

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                  [flash=640,400:1qcwk6qv]http://www.youtube.com/v/xq3BYw4xjxE&feature=player_detailpage[/flash:1qcwk6qv]

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                    http://vimeo.com/32215878
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                    ,))),

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                    • StinkieS Offline
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                      http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE7AI0YF20111119

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                      • soloS Offline
                        solo
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                        Here is the memo: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/CLGF-msnbc.pdf

                        Wow, these 4 pages is exactly the problem and why OWS is valid.

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                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
                          Mike Lucey
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                          Just listened to the 'We are the many - Makana' YT vid (above). Who is that guy? What a voice! They say '... the power of words!' but this is definitely a case of the 'power of song!'

                          It's not going away for the '1%'

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                          • soloS Offline
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                            Well said!.....

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                            • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                              Yes, well said by that gentleman.

                              I've been thinking about something lately, the figure '1%' is being used to indicate the 'Powers that Be'/ Money Power Brokers but I very much doubt these power brokers are anything near 1% of populations. If you think about it for a minute, how many people do you know? It probably runs into many hundreds!

                              Unless one is living in pretty bad circumstances, accordingly we should know or at least be aware of 2 to 3 of the so called '1%!

                              This is clearly not the case. I think the actual number of power brokers is much, much less than 1%! More like one in a hundred thousand or more ..... would need to work that one out! Done, for a hundred thousand its .00001%.

                              What's my point? Its simply that even the 1% figure probably has been put in there by the hidden power brokers in order that they would appear to be a larger force than they actually are.

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