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    • D Offline
      Dnt
      last edited by

      what do you think about this question, which software or softwares complete SU?
      I want you to answer with mentioning the "Aspect" of your reason for your call.
      Thank you.

      I never had the nerve to make the final cut...

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        Vicspa
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        IMHO one needs a good render software to complete SU, I have tried several, and settled with Thea render.

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        • Chris FullmerC Offline
          Chris Fullmer
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          Photoshop for me.

          But then again, I need photoshop for everything I do.

          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
          All my Plugins I've written

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            Vicspa
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            You're right Chris, Photoshop for everything else.

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              pilou
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              Simlab Composer for an easy renderer, easy animation and 3D PDF creator and Ipad files viewer πŸ˜‰
              Integrated or not Inside SU so you can use it for anything! 😎

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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                Dnt
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                Thank you both, Ill keep that in mind.
                but for example if you want to do some carvings, is SU enough for you( I mean, isnt another software say...Zbrush better for these kind of things).
                The reason that I mentioned Zbrush is because my friend said to me learn this software too, as you are learning SU.
                what is your recommendation about it as a teacher to me?
                sincerely A.A

                I never had the nerve to make the final cut...

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                  Dnt
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  Simlab Composer for an easy renderer, easy animation and 3D PDF creator and Ipad files viewer πŸ˜‰
                  Integrated or not Inside SU so you can use it for anything! 😎

                  Thank you dear pilou. Ill surely check it out

                  I never had the nerve to make the final cut...

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    Well, what do you want to make? ZBrush represents a very powerful and different modeling style. I've heard many argue it is the future of modeling, but that was a few years ago and so far it has not taken over the world - augmented it yes, but it has not single handedly shut down other modelers.

                    But if what you're looking for is how to make more complex shapes than SU makes easily, I suppose zbrush is a good way to go. As would be Rhino, or Maya, or 3dsmax.

                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                    All my Plugins I've written

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                      Dnt
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                      @chris fullmer said:

                      Well, what do you want to make? ZBrush represents a very powerful and different modeling style. I've heard many argue it is the future of modeling, but that was a few years ago and so far it has not taken over the world - augmented it yes, but it has not single handedly shut down other modelers.

                      But if what you're looking for is how to make more complex shapes than SU makes easily, I suppose zbrush is a good way to go. As would be Rhino, or Maya, or 3dsmax.

                      please correct me if Im wrong.
                      you are saying that if I learn SU proic and good it will be enough for modeling in any concept?[ in other words SU works as good as other softwares but in a easy way(rendering aside)?]
                      Thank you

                      I never had the nerve to make the final cut...

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                      • IdahoJI Offline
                        IdahoJ
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                        I think SU works very well for engineering and architectural work. If you need to model organic shapes principally, it falls far short in capability IMO. ZBrush, Maya, Rhino, etc have tools that are designed and suited to manipulating the complex meshes that organic shapes tend to have more efficiently.

                        You could do organics in SU, but the time involved would be orders of magnitude longer than using an application like Maya for example.

                        Cheers.

                        "For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."

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                          Dnt
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                          @idahoj said:

                          I think SU works very well for engineering and architectural work. If you need to model organic shapes principally, it falls far short in capability IMO. ZBrush, Maya, Rhino, etc have tools that are designed and suited to manipulating the complex meshes that organic shapes tend to have more efficiently.

                          You could do organics in SU, but the time involved would be orders of magnitude longer than using an application like Maya for example.

                          Cheers.

                          Thank you dear Jeff. I appreciate your help

                          I never had the nerve to make the final cut...

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                            pilou
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                            If you want more precisions (real circles, real and very more powerful booleans) and tensile bloby strutures forms
                            maybe you must see Moment Of Inspiration (MOi) 😎
                            a nurbs modeler with the same ergonomy spirite than SU, very easy, very speedy learning curve
                            and direct exportation with SKP format πŸ˜‰
                            you have an infinite demo without save and a 30 days try with save !
                            Sufficient for make some cool adventures in nurbsland! πŸ’š

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
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                              What I asked was

                              @chris fullmer said:

                              what do you want to make?

                              So no, I'm not saying that if you get good enough at SU you can make anything with it. What I'm saying is that it depends on what you want to make. Many people that use SU never need anything more. It is the best 3dmodeler for lots of things.

                              But if you want to design the characters of Pirates of the Carribean - with all their animated sea life attathced to their skin:
                              http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=036668

                              SU can't do that. So you would need zbrush for that. Really, lots of organic characters with special detail needs are great in zbrush.

                              Or if you need to model fluid dynamics, SU isn't the best for that, go for a fluid modeler. If you need solid modeling, go for a solid modeler, etc.

                              But, your question was

                              @unknownuser said:

                              which software or softwares complete SU?

                              Which says nothing about why you may think SU is incomplete, or what else you need it to do? So for me, the one main thing I need is better image output control. Maybe for someone else the best software that completes SketchUp is iTunes.

                              But if you really meant to ask which software will do better organic modeling of crazy creatures? - then sure, learn zbrush πŸ˜„ Its an awesome software.

                              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                              All my Plugins I've written

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                                pilou
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                                Or begin first by Sculptris ( a free one) then Zbrush πŸ˜‰
                                by CTran3D

                                http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=265294

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  Dnt
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                                  Dear pilou.
                                  Those were 2 great suggestion.
                                  especially Sculptris. I shake your hand from this long distance.
                                  A.A

                                  I never had the nerve to make the final cut...

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                                    Dnt
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                                    Dear chris
                                    Im like human on earth, seeking 2nd home . is it gonna be Mars or Moon or is it gonna be Gliese 581d? πŸ˜„
                                    the reason I asked was problem in some complex carving which my friend suggested zbrush and ... But I got it By answers.
                                    Thank you.
                                    A.A

                                    I never had the nerve to make the final cut...

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