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    • srxS Offline
      srx
      last edited by

      It is very hard to break this chains...I don't know how.
      Well, in Serbia people where hiding from Otoman empire for 500 years living in woods, far from the centers of power, to be free. Then, when first Serbian politician came in 19th century he made towns and made people come in. So, they had to pay taxes. He could rule (I'd say somebody else trough him). It's time again to go to the woods 😄, but global. I think it's the same thing. I thought about it myself, to design and build "a town" for likewise people..but it's hard to break chains in yourself...and to find likewise too...We'll see. 😄

      www.saurus.rs

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        JuanV.Soler
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        Your people once did it then, that is a huge advantage, srx, the experience must be then in your genetic code by now.
        Lucky you 😉
        I agree with your thoughts that this is going to be global.
        I am worried about the cities.
        I think it will be quite hard to survive there, but it must be possible to get organised somehow and we have to think about it and prepare.
        The channels for transportation of food, when oil is no more avalaible, or electricity not working well any more,...
        Maybe selecting districts in the cities, close to the avalaible coming of the food,... I do not know.
        But it is the time to start moving on that direction of the thoughts.
        And not too much time is left.
        The good thing now is that we can share our experiences and learnings and that all this is necessary to happen for the new good times to come.
        cheers and good luck ¡


        not to alarm anyone, but this video makes me think.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3-vwYJiD8g&feature=player_embedded#at=395


        5th of July, people win police, ,:)))


        update 16th of July

        People keep working in their neighbourhoods. Politicians have just changed the law in one day about ejections of homes. Not as expected but they raised the money that the Bank can not touch in a working family. They are too proposing ways to change the way that they are elected. The movement has created consciousness of change. Things go slowly and silently but I think no one doubts that it will demonstrate when needed. Things are bad. Greece will probably leave the Euro zone. Europe will not be the same. Spain is constantly in danger. The good thing about this movement is that people are getting to know each other´s needs and think about how to help and what it is needed to be done. Something good has to come out of it. Maybe a new Reinassance

        botticelli-sandro-the-birth-of-venus-c-1485-detail.jpg
        or maybe not.

        Time will tell.
        cheers

        ,))),

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          JuanV.Soler
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          Marchs from the cities have arrived to Madrid****,._)
          le5jvd.jpgy97xk.jpgt16gj.jpgSol_llena_nuevo_indignados.jpg
          support from London.jpg

          ,._) keep moving ,._)

          ,))),

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          • srxS Offline
            srx
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            I'm glad to see you people are still walking. Congratulations on your persistence.

            www.saurus.rs

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            • J Offline
              JuanV.Soler
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              thank you srx for your understanding of the situation and your support,
              and sorry for the delay, I have just arrived from holidays.
              The Puerta del Sol Square has been closed and cleared. The police stands day and night at the square not letting anyone cross it. I do not understand. They are going to loose again. Just watch these images from today in the surroundings 😄
              I will keep updating
              cheers


              SOL cleared.JPG


              People closes the main street GRAN VIA.JPG


              people march in the main street GRAN VIA near SOL .jpg


              tonight in CIBELES near SOLJPG.JPG

              ,))),

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                JuanV.Soler
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                Back again 😄

                Yesterday night the Square was opened again.
                maybe it has been because of the demands of the traders ¡
                But,...
                nevertheless 😄 we won

                YouTube - BACK AGAIN
                [flash=480,385:1ka5wt8i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K5PkmE1OYI[/flash:1ka5wt8i]


                Back again 2.JPG


                Back again.JPG

                ,))),

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
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                  I''m following your posts with interest Juan.

                  I think we (Western World) will be seeing many changes in how we govern ourselves over the next few years. Electing political parties to do the job is just not working. This system is now totally outdated in the Information Age we live in. People's wishes are ONLY taken into account prior to Election Day and after that they are put to one side.

                  After a government gets into power they quickly put their platform policies on the shelf. Not even political party 'grass root' member's voices are taken into account. The politicians simply fall into the grasp and control of the 'World Financiers' and its this group that govern! This can be clearly seen from what has happened in Iceland, Greece, Ireland and soon Portugal, Spain, Italy. Others will follow quickly.

                  I am not able to particularly identify the real Power Brokers but groups like Bilderberg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group comes to mind. I imagine there are others. There is even a concerted effort to control the Net. I hope this never happens! Although I imagine, because of the way the Net has been set up that they will not be able to fully control it. If they do, we are all screwed!

                  Mike

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                    JuanV.Soler
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                    Thanks**Mike**for your interest.
                    Yes indeed we are all going to be screwed. Money is money.
                    AH ¡ THE LAW ¡
                    They lend.
                    Then apply the interest.
                    Then Governments can not pay back.
                    Then they take the countries.
                    ¡ SO SIMPLE ¡ and ¡ SO DIFFICULT TO CHANGE ¡
                    First we gather and think about it.
                    Second we organise ourselves, and
                    Third we take action. That is the plan.
                    No other way in the movement.
                    And we will win just because of the fact that it was Man and Women who invented the Money and not the Money who invented the Women and the Man.
                    So it is all about taking conscience of that fact and realize that we were first and that we can do it better.
                    And when I say we I mean the people.
                    Governments and Politicians are too busy into trying to pay back,
                    not wondering about anything else.
                    They must believe that Money is the Law.
                    But we do not 😎 We will fight

                    ,))),

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                    • srxS Offline
                      srx
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                      @unknownuser said:

                      They lend.
                      Then apply the interest.
                      Then Governments can not pay back.
                      Then they take the countries.

                      I have to add to the beginning
                      They start the crisis (war?)
                      They make people poor.

                      This is very informative movie on this subject, about how they did it to my country - Yugoslavia. And I can tell you that from what I know it's very much truth.
                      http://www.weightofchains.com/

                      www.saurus.rs

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                        JuanV.Soler
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                        I would like to cheer up a little bit this thread by inserting a video but i can not for i forgot how to do it and the SCF TUBE does not work for me any more. So i will just put the link to watch.
                        it is only in spanish, sorry for non understanders. It is about the good news to spread about the forces of the coming 2.012 event. No te lo pierdas 😉 http://vimeo.com/27262689

                        ,))),

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                        • J Offline
                          JuanV.Soler
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                          Popular March towards BRUSELAS****%(#000080)[has started a few days ago.
                          Still in Spain. I had to get you informed .]
                          😄

                          %(#004080)[the words are :
                          go slowly ´cause go far]****,._))

                          Marcha Popular hacia BRUSELAS.jpeg
                          nice isintit ?
                          people is taking the power in europe too. %This movement is unstoppable. I wonder how is going to end. Calm and education. The truth is on our side. 😎

                          ,))),

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                          • srxS Offline
                            srx
                            last edited by

                            Very nice Juan! Great words "go slowly ´cause go far ,._))". There is a saying in my country, something like:" Quiet water crush the mountain" I am too wondering what will happen? Something must. 👍 👍 👍
                            Do you have a link to share here?

                            www.saurus.rs

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                              JuanV.Soler
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                              srx, ,._),
                              I found this map
                              On 17th of September arrival to PARIS.
                              On 8th of October arrival to BRUXELLES
                              facebook = http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/15M-Marcha-Bruselas/115074155256399
                              twitter : https://twitter.com/#!/marchabruselas
                              blog : http://roadtobrussels.blogspot.com/p/presentacion.html
                              Madrid - Bruxelles.JPGMarch to Brussels proposal.doc.pdf
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt3fJJJyUGg
                              😎 up up up up up 😎

                              La FRANCE OH ¡ LA FRANCE
                              Anonymous À Paris Le 5 Novembre 2011 - YouTube

                              ,))),

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                              • J Offline
                                JuanV.Soler
                                last edited by

                                Moody's sees "positive" that Spain limit the deficit in the Constitutionblush.JPG
                                Spanish politicians are going to make a change in the Constitution next 2 September, limiting the deficit.
                                Awesome and outrageous.
                                The 15 M movement has being claiming for a change of the Constitution regarding the electoral way.
                                no chance
                                And now because of the Markets Owners of Europe these people obey and change the Constitution in two days.yesterday.jpg
                                Yesterday we gathered in Puerta del Sol
                                They are going to hear from us. Their true attitude regarding the people has been clearly exposed for all to see. We can not accept it. March to Bruxelles is reaching Besancon.

                                ,))),

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                                • srxS Offline
                                  srx
                                  last edited by

                                  From what I see in the world, the cards are wide open. It is global. They are hiding no more what they are doing...Like Germany 1939. Ordinary people see what's happening , but can do nothing. It is too late I'm afraid.

                                  www.saurus.rs

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                                  • J Offline
                                    JuanV.Soler
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                                    waiting
                                    About the point of information, symbolic in the Square Puerta del Sol, : thinking about trying to hire a place to put the table the chair the luggage with the main documents like signatures of people supporting various actions pencils pens notebooks etc. Police do not accept to keep it in the Square and they have to take it each night to a fellow´s appartment who shares a little space for them. But he plans to move as i´ve been told.
                                    Movement do not accept money but goods. We are on it now.
                                    About the movement in general :wide open

                                    so they have their cards wide open and we the people here are wide open as well all over the country saying no to what they are planning to do in so many differents paths. Constitutional, Educational, Health, Jobs, ...even if they are right in cutting the superfluous spending that we have had. (Right wing is going to win the elections now) We need a more radical solution affecting our Country and Others as well. A new thought of ruling . and this is what we are after for. and this is what it is about. takes time.


                                    apparently things are not like in Germany 1939 now we all know at the precise time together what is going on, something different has a possibility to occur.
                                    I like to think, same as you do, that this time we the people will decide the facts and not them.
                                    Be confident 👍srx
                                    Y try too 😄

                                    ,))),

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                                    • srxS Offline
                                      srx
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm just thinking loud to here other opinions. I've never saw such media manipulation and blockade on a global scale as thees days. So it's nice to here from people directly...like "Juan news on Spain revolution"...internet is very helpful in keeping the light on. It's different from 1939.

                                      www.saurus.rs

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                                      • T Offline
                                        tomasz
                                        last edited by

                                        Charlie Chaplin final speech in The Great Dictator - YouTube
                                        is even more relevant today.

                                        [flash=480,385:36ggbcyi]http://www.youtube.com/v/QcvjoWOwnn4[/flash:36ggbcyi]

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                                        • J Offline
                                          JuanV.Soler
                                          last edited by

                                          Captura.JPG
                                          http://vimeo.com/30081785
                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyziG5bUuBE&feature=related
                                          http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

                                          In my view, today, Spain´s movement rests and watchs.
                                          **América**starts and spreads. 8th of October, tomorrow, arrives the march to Bruxelles. And in the 15th, the demonstrations are to be shown everywhere. We must learn now how to use this power since it is soon going to be evident that no one is in control of the established power in fact. Who will takes us to war if we declares us non-violent ? 😉
                                          Cheers
                                          América 👍

                                          I found this assertion, quite an statement :
                                          %(#0040FF)[We are not here to Survive The Future.
                                          We are here to Create The Future!]
                                          http://www.wisdom-forum.com/meditation_gregg_braden.php

                                          ,))),

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                                          • srxS Offline
                                            srx
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            We must learn now how to use this power since it is soon going to be evident that no one is in control of the established power in fact.

                                            "no ONE" should stay that way. This is what is to be afraid of. How to control the whole World? Maybe its better not make it global...We all love each other, but not necessary under one roof...it seems dangerous..."Brave New World"

                                            www.saurus.rs

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