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Bad news for the establishment :
we are**allunited inSpain**
Today have gathered in Madrid about 30 representatives of different cities of the country.
This week_end will work about how to co_ordinate.
we are going to get it.****%(#000040)[we go slowly but it is because it is a long way to go
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join us
cheerslink : http://madrid.tomalaplaza.net/
basic principles of the Real Democracy Now, that is how the movement is called, are three :
1,.) To develop as an Horizontal movement. Leaders are not allowed. There are no leaders.
2,.) The search for collective thinking . Everything is discussed in the Assemblies, Neighbourhood, Local,...National...International ?... and resolutions must be taken by consensus. No-one must fall apart.
3,._) Non ViolenceThis are the tools of the movement so far.
we are improving the second tool.
with a bit of imagination you can see Frank Gehry´s sculptures style is in the camps ,._))) -
28th of June
Hot, hot, hot weather,33, 34, 35... celsius degreesall over Spain. No more Demonstrations now. But the work continues. The net grows. The neighbourhood organises themselves. Today is the debate of the current state of the nation in the Parliament. There will be another debate about it, in the Puerta del Sol, made by the people.
The movement is acting strongly in stopping ejections from their homes of people who can not pay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keECLmhimwE&feature=player_embedded
The political debate continues but still do not reach consensus.
The movement goes under and expands. It is starting to spontaneously propose the survival out off the system. Self organisation. Alternatives of work, of food, dwellings,...
I think the movement is going to develop in that way. No single hand to be given to the system. After all 2.012 is just about to come and for something really NEW to come we have to prepare ourselves with something new as well.
Meanwhile the march towards Madrid goes on, despite of the hot weather.
It is not easy. But the movement does not give up. The movement learns.
This is all for now
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It is very hard to break this chains...I don't know how.
Well, in Serbia people where hiding from Otoman empire for 500 years living in woods, far from the centers of power, to be free. Then, when first Serbian politician came in 19th century he made towns and made people come in. So, they had to pay taxes. He could rule (I'd say somebody else trough him). It's time again to go to the woods
, but global. I think it's the same thing. I thought about it myself, to design and build "a town" for likewise people..but it's hard to break chains in yourself...and to find likewise too...We'll see. -
Your people once did it then, that is a huge advantage, srx, the experience must be then in your genetic code by now.
Lucky you
I agree with your thoughts that this is going to be global.
I am worried about the cities.
I think it will be quite hard to survive there, but it must be possible to get organised somehow and we have to think about it and prepare.
The channels for transportation of food, when oil is no more avalaible, or electricity not working well any more,...
Maybe selecting districts in the cities, close to the avalaible coming of the food,... I do not know.
But it is the time to start moving on that direction of the thoughts.
And not too much time is left.
The good thing now is that we can share our experiences and learnings and that all this is necessary to happen for the new good times to come.
cheers and good luck ¡
not to alarm anyone, but this video makes me think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3-vwYJiD8g&feature=player_embedded#at=395
5th of July, people win police, ,:)))
update 16th of July
People keep working in their neighbourhoods. Politicians have just changed the law in one day about ejections of homes. Not as expected but they raised the money that the Bank can not touch in a working family. They are too proposing ways to change the way that they are elected. The movement has created consciousness of change. Things go slowly and silently but I think no one doubts that it will demonstrate when needed. Things are bad. Greece will probably leave the Euro zone. Europe will not be the same. Spain is constantly in danger. The good thing about this movement is that people are getting to know each other´s needs and think about how to help and what it is needed to be done. Something good has to come out of it. Maybe a new Reinassance
or maybe not.Time will tell.
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Marchs from the cities have arrived to Madrid****,._)
,._) keep moving ,._)
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I'm glad to see you people are still walking. Congratulations on your persistence.
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thank you srx for your understanding of the situation and your support,
and sorry for the delay, I have just arrived from holidays.
The Puerta del Sol Square has been closed and cleared. The police stands day and night at the square not letting anyone cross it. I do not understand. They are going to loose again. Just watch these images from today in the surroundings
I will keep updating
cheers
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Back again
Yesterday night the Square was opened again.
maybe it has been because of the demands of the traders ¡
But,...
nevertheless we wonYouTube - BACK AGAIN
[flash=480,385:1ka5wt8i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K5PkmE1OYI[/flash:1ka5wt8i]
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I''m following your posts with interest Juan.
I think we (Western World) will be seeing many changes in how we govern ourselves over the next few years. Electing political parties to do the job is just not working. This system is now totally outdated in the Information Age we live in. People's wishes are ONLY taken into account prior to Election Day and after that they are put to one side.
After a government gets into power they quickly put their platform policies on the shelf. Not even political party 'grass root' member's voices are taken into account. The politicians simply fall into the grasp and control of the 'World Financiers' and its this group that govern! This can be clearly seen from what has happened in Iceland, Greece, Ireland and soon Portugal, Spain, Italy. Others will follow quickly.
I am not able to particularly identify the real Power Brokers but groups like Bilderberg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group comes to mind. I imagine there are others. There is even a concerted effort to control the Net. I hope this never happens! Although I imagine, because of the way the Net has been set up that they will not be able to fully control it. If they do, we are all screwed!
Mike
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Thanks**Mike**for your interest.
Yes indeed we are all going to be screwed. Money is money.
AH ¡ THE LAW ¡
They lend.
Then apply the interest.
Then Governments can not pay back.
Then they take the countries.
¡ SO SIMPLE ¡ and ¡ SO DIFFICULT TO CHANGE ¡
First we gather and think about it.
Second we organise ourselves, and
Third we take action. That is the plan.
No other way in the movement.
And we will win just because of the fact that it was Man and Women who invented the Money and not the Money who invented the Women and the Man.
So it is all about taking conscience of that fact and realize that we were first and that we can do it better.
And when I say we I mean the people.
Governments and Politicians are too busy into trying to pay back,
not wondering about anything else.
They must believe that Money is the Law.
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@unknownuser said:
They lend.
Then apply the interest.
Then Governments can not pay back.
Then they take the countries.I have to add to the beginning
They start the crisis (war?)
They make people poor.This is very informative movie on this subject, about how they did it to my country - Yugoslavia. And I can tell you that from what I know it's very much truth.
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I would like to cheer up a little bit this thread by inserting a video but i can not for i forgot how to do it and the SCF TUBE does not work for me any more. So i will just put the link to watch.
it is only in spanish, sorry for non understanders. It is about the good news to spread about the forces of the coming 2.012 event. No te lo pierdas http://vimeo.com/27262689 -
Popular March towards BRUSELAS****%(#000080)[has started a few days ago.
Still in Spain. I had to get you informed .]%(#004080)[the words are :
go slowly ´cause go far]****,._))
nice isintit ?
people is taking the power in europe too. %This movement is unstoppable. I wonder how is going to end. Calm and education. The truth is on our side. -
Very nice Juan! Great words "go slowly ´cause go far ,._))". There is a saying in my country, something like:" Quiet water crush the mountain" I am too wondering what will happen? Something must.
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srx, ,._),
I found this map
On 17th of September arrival to PARIS.
On 8th of October arrival to BRUXELLES
facebook = http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/15M-Marcha-Bruselas/115074155256399
twitter : https://twitter.com/#!/marchabruselas
blog : http://roadtobrussels.blogspot.com/p/presentacion.html
March to Brussels proposal.doc.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt3fJJJyUGg
up up up up up La FRANCE OH ¡ LA FRANCE
Anonymous À Paris Le 5 Novembre 2011 - YouTube -
Moody's sees "positive" that Spain limit the deficit in the Constitution
Spanish politicians are going to make a change in the Constitution next 2 September, limiting the deficit.
Awesome and outrageous.
The 15 M movement has being claiming for a change of the Constitution regarding the electoral way.
no chance
And now because of the Markets Owners of Europe these people obey and change the Constitution in two days.
Yesterday we gathered in Puerta del Sol
They are going to hear from us. Their true attitude regarding the people has been clearly exposed for all to see. We can not accept it. March to Bruxelles is reaching Besancon. -
From what I see in the world, the cards are wide open. It is global. They are hiding no more what they are doing...Like Germany 1939. Ordinary people see what's happening , but can do nothing. It is too late I'm afraid.
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waiting
About the point of information, symbolic in the Square Puerta del Sol, : thinking about trying to hire a place to put the table the chair the luggage with the main documents like signatures of people supporting various actions pencils pens notebooks etc. Police do not accept to keep it in the Square and they have to take it each night to a fellow´s appartment who shares a little space for them. But he plans to move as i´ve been told.
Movement do not accept money but goods. We are on it now.
About the movement in general :wide openso they have their cards wide open and we the people here are wide open as well all over the country saying no to what they are planning to do in so many differents paths. Constitutional, Educational, Health, Jobs, ...even if they are right in cutting the superfluous spending that we have had. (Right wing is going to win the elections now) We need a more radical solution affecting our Country and Others as well. A new thought of ruling . and this is what we are after for. and this is what it is about. takes time.
apparently things are not like in Germany 1939 now we all know at the precise time together what is going on, something different has a possibility to occur.
I like to think, same as you do, that this time we the people will decide the facts and not them.
Be confidentsrx
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I'm just thinking loud to here other opinions. I've never saw such media manipulation and blockade on a global scale as thees days. So it's nice to here from people directly...like "Juan news on Spain revolution"...internet is very helpful in keeping the light on. It's different from 1939.
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Charlie Chaplin final speech in The Great Dictator - YouTube
is even more relevant today.[flash=480,385:36ggbcyi]http://www.youtube.com/v/QcvjoWOwnn4[/flash:36ggbcyi]
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