Ruby Version for Sketchup 8.0 M1 on Mac ??

jeff hammond

i don't think ruby comes with sketchup as it's part of os x but...

1.8.5
2006-08-25

(RUBY_PATCHLEVEL gives an error)

Dan Rathbun

@unknownuser said:

1.8.5
2006-08-25

(RUBY_PATCHLEVEL gives an error)

because Sketchup is loading 1.8.5 initial (p0)

The RUBY_PATCHLEVEL constant was introduced in p12.

Dan Rathbun

@unknownuser said:

i don't think ruby comes with sketchup as it's part of os x but...

I know OSX comes with Ruby, but what version & patchlevel ?

Can you open a bash shell and start Ruby or IRB and enter the constants again, please?

jeff hammond

that's pretty much chinese to me (and i speak/read zero chinese).. but if i type ruby -v in terminal i get:

ruby 1.8.7 (2009-06-12 patchlevel 174) [universal-darwin10.0]

(the earlier 1.8.5 output was given to me when typing the constants in the su ruby window)

Dan Rathbun

Thanks Jeff ... that'll do.

It shows that Sketchup is loading it's own copy of the Ruby interpreter (which is obsolete, by the way. The entire 1.8.5 branch has been "retired" and is no longer being updated.) SU Mac still is running the initial release of a dead Ruby branch!

There is a symbolic link in the SU app folders (somewhere,) pointing at the old Ruby in the Ruby.Frameworks/Versions/A

I don't have a Mac.. but there must be a way for you guys to point that link at your up to date "system" Ruby.

driven

%(#0040FF)[...$ ruby -v
ruby 1.8.6 (2009-06-08 patchlevel 369) [universal-darwin9.0]]
and on OSX 10.5.8, I've got a different version to Jeff

thomthom

@driven said:

%(#0040FF)[...$ ruby -v
ruby 1.8.6 (2009-06-08 patchlevel 369) [universal-darwin9.0]]
and on OSX 10.5.8, I've got a different version to Jeff

Did you do that from SketchUp's ruby console, or from OSX's command console?

driven

Terminal,

trying to work out how to point SU at that one at least...

what version is used on PC SU now?

driven

@dan rathbun said:

I don't have a Mac.. but there must be a way for you guys to point that link at your up to date "system" Ruby.

the path to version 8.5

/Applications/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/SketchUp.app/Contents/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/A/Ruby

but how to point it to system version??

jeff hammond

@driven said:

%(#0040FF)[...$ ruby -v
ruby 1.8.6 (2009-06-08 patchlevel 369) [universal-darwin9.0]]
and on OSX 10.5.8, I've got a different version to Jeff

I recently updated everything to snow leopard so I guess apple has the latest ruby in there.

Dan Rathbun

@unknownuser said:

@driven said:

I recently updated everything to snow leopard so I guess apple has the latest ruby in there.

Another question for Apple MRI Ruby .. how does a Mac owner update there Ruby ?

Does their "system" Ruby come with RubyGems preinstalled ?
Or do they need to go to an Apple website to download a Ruby update?

Dan Rathbun

@driven said:

@dan rathbun said:

I don't have a Mac.. but there must be a way for you guys to point that link at your up to date "system" Ruby.

the path to version 1.8.5

/Applications/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/SketchUp.app/Contents/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/A/Ruby

but how to point it to system version??

check the Apple Help website on using, creating and editing symbolic links.

If you figure out how to do it.. post a "How To" here at SCF.
(Suggest if possible to back up the old symbolic link, before changing it.)

Dan Rathbun

@driven said:

what version is used on PC SU now?

Sketchup 8.0 M0 and M1 come "out-of-the-box" with v1.8.6-p287, but it is very easy to change that on PC by replacing the DLL (as long as it's in the 1.8 trunk.)

wdbao

i want to extend the build_in sketchup interpreter too.
from the release note post by google here http://cfcl.com/twiki/bin/view/Projects/SketchUp/RE_Library_Use
Su 8.0 on pc has a 1.8.6 and a 1.8.5 on mac
the new 8.0 M1 release note says nothing about the ruby version. so i assume it is still the same.
here http://cfcl.com/twiki/bin/view/Projects/SketchUp/RE_Library_Use
Main.RichMorin post sth interesting. He also try to extend ruby inside su to other parts of the library, gems, etc.
it semms that he hasn't work it out yet.
but it's worth a try.
and i hope some gurus follow this path and somebody find a way eventually
note that even on pc it is 1.8.6 all right, but it has very limited access to the standard library and gems.
i try to use CSV class, but it fails.

Dan Rathbun

@wdbao said:

i try to use CSV class, but it fails.

See this post: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=34381&p=302974#p302974

wdbao

@dan rathbun said:

@wdbao said:

i try to use CSV class, but it fails.

See this post: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=34381&p=302974#p302974

Thanks again! Dan!
you are a very good helper. and fast.
you have showed me this load path code before. i just couldn't understand it fully then. now with more ruby reading, it all make sense to me.
it feels great to be in a such nice community.
i will keep read on.

slbaumgartner

@driven said:

@dan rathbun said:

I don't have a Mac.. but there must be a way for you guys to point that link at your up to date "system" Ruby.

the path to version 8.5

/Applications/Google\ SketchUp\ 8/SketchUp.app/Contents/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/A/Ruby

but how to point it to system version??

Not for the faint of heart, but here's how:

quit sketchup
open a terminal window
cd /Applications/Google\ SketchUp \8/SketchUp.app/Contents/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions
sudo mv A A.orig
sudo ln -s /System/Library/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/1.8 A

Restart SketchUp, open a Console window, and type VERSION. If all went well, it should report the same version as when you type ruby -e "puts VERSION" in a console window.

To undo this hack, in the same Versions folder:

sudo rm A
sudo mv A.orig A

driven

Hi Steve,
I run as an admin, but not root, I need sudo for anything outside user space.
'Content' folders should have User read/write permissions, I thought.
I also run multiple copies of SU, the path for this one differs from norm and yours. [that may be the splat]

the other thing I have now added sleep 1 and a return before the cd / to reopen SU in both methods.

I may have done blanket permission change using Sketchup.app >> right click >> more info and change for all enclosed files, but I don't think so... but that should work to avoid 'sudo'.
alternatively do that to your 'User' folder after installing SU there?

just using the bits needed for a restart seems handy as well.

Dan Rathbun

@John: The global constant VERSION is deprecated because every class and module should have one that specifies it's version, but if the global is defined, it will get inherited into every class and module, and it's easy to assume the inherited one is a specific module version.

Example at the console:
module Dan; end %(#008000)[>> nil] Dan.module_eval("VERSION") %(#008000)[>> 1.8.6]

Oh look, module Dan is version 1.8.6 ?

Not really:
Dan::VERSION %(#008000)[>> Error: #<NameError: (eval): uninitialized constant Dan::VERSION> (eval)]

Use RUBY_VERSION instead. (As well as the other constants that are prefixed RUBY_ ... please.)

@Steve: Please don't quote codeblocks. Besides wasting space (and SCF bandwidth,) it just clones errors, and the original poster of the code may make corrections to the code, which will not be propagated into your quote. (I wish the quote feature would auto-strip them and insert a link back to the quoted post.)

(pssst... you can edit your post and delete the quoted code.)

slbaumgartner

@driven said:

Hi Steve,
just got back and tested your method, works a treat, so I worked out a Ruby Console 'none sudo' version that works here, if it works for you I'll make it into a toggle button for switching from inside SU...

yes Dan I'll wrap it in a module...
john

Hi John,

On my Mac, the folders and files involved all have root ownership and rwxr-xr-x permissions, so without sudo I could change nothing. When I tried this script, SketchUp crashed (no bugsplat, just vanished!), and nothing changed. You aren't running as root are you? I can see how, after changing permissions, your script would be useful for toggling back and forth between versions, but I don't understand how it can work without either that tweak or sudo?

Steve

P.S. OK Dan, I deleted the code block