SketchyPhysics3.2 (Dec 2)
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This site seems to be moribund, not a lot happening?
Anyway Ive solved the UI problem
so all working ok now
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here my 2c worth for sp 3.2
if you want to make a reversible motor joint, use the hinge (as per sp2) and set the controller blue box to
quote slider ( 'anyname' )
you can see the same construction using the motor joint
wish I didnt have to waste hours getting to this point.
Also
to make magnetic solids work you need to set the ui box status to magnetic
and the magnetic force to a large value eg +- 1000not obvious is it?
I wonder whether its worth contributing to a wikimanual at5 this stage if thereis going to be an sp4 completely recoded?
Robin
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@robint said:
to make magnetic solids work you need to set the ui box status to magnetic
and the magnetic force to a large value eg +- 1000I do believe that magnetic force is also affected by mass and scale. So if the model is very large, you'll need a larger value for magnetic force. If you have a small scale model, you can use a magnetic force of as little as 10 to see results.
There is so much involved in SP, more documentation would be nice, but i'm just glad we have people here we can chat with who want to help!
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Does this vervion can works on the V6?
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Hi JB
good point
afik though there is a density coeff, I dont know how well it correlates to the mass of an object?
the apparent mass i governed by the size of the collision shape as set in the rt click physics settinghavent figured this tiresome details out yet
I have a number of cu4rious physical models i would like to post for discussion (eg double pendulums etc) but havent yet found a way to post these little experiments.
It seems daft that one cant attach these on this forum - severly limiting
Any ideas?
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Yes magnets are effected by the size of an object.
You can attach files to posts. Look at the bottom of the form and there is an "Upload Attachment" tab.
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hi all
sorry pardon didnt see the tab for uploading
I was trying to make a chain rotating around 2 sprockets. The chain seems to want to fly apart, its all chaotic? even though its all supposed to be stationary, any ideas
btw i have su8 and sp3.2 dec2010
its all good fun but i wish i had more control over the way things work, bit hit and miss at the moment
btw although bugsplat is a good tool, i dont connect my main machine directly to the net for obvious security reasons, so cannot utilise bs directly. It would be much more convenient if bs made a composite text file stored conveniently which i could gather up and post here to help with su crashes. Its a bit cumbersome at the moment
cheers robin
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CPhillips
Please see here for an 'issue' withgroup.definition
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=300105#p300105 -
hi CP
thanx for the tip, will see if i can make it so.
any pointers on where to start on Ruby so i can at least know something of what im doing?
cheers
Robint
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@tig said:
CPhillips
Please see here for an 'issue' withgroup.definition
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=300105#p300105Hi
I tried the code but it seemed to make things worseCode: Select all
class Sketchup::Group
if not Sketchup::Group.method_defined?(:definition)
def definition() # make it so you can use group.definition
return(self.entities.parent)
end
end#if
endsomething about a chain sp doesnt like
Im stuck, my chain flies apart
robin
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High CP
I have used Poser 5 in the past and learnt about inverse kinematics and joints
I think there is a fundamental limitation that prevents you making a chain of joints because the last child joint has to join the first parent so the parent must then become a child. This would be inherently unstable (like positive feedback) which is why the joint flies apart in pieces
Can anyone confirm my guesswork or poiont me somewhere that a working chain has been made (ie will revolve around a sprocket
cheers robin
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Hey, robint!
Your chain works perfect when you set the collision state correct in every single object
Re. my chain 1.skp -
Hi,
I have installed SketchyPhisics 3.2 on Mac with OSX 10.6.6 and SU8 and the plugin don't woks, SU read the plugin, appear the toolbars, you can create the shapes but when you press the play appears a window with this message:
Error initializing the Simulation: : uninitialized constant MSketchyPhysics3::SP3xSimulationContext::SPSounds /Users/Oxer/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/SketchyPhysics3/ControllerCommands.rb:777:in `initialize'
And in the ruby console this:
%(#FF0000)[String doesn't compile: uninitialized constant MSketchyPhysics3::SP3xSimulationContext::SPSounds#<NameError: uninitialized constant MSketchyPhysics3::SP3xSimulationContext::SPSounds>
/Users/Oxer/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/SketchyPhysics3/ControllerCommands.rb:777:in `initialize'
/Users/Oxer/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/SketchyPhysics3/sketchyphysicstool.rb:727:in `new'
/Users/Oxer/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/SketchyPhysics3/sketchyphysicstool.rb:727:in `initialize'
/Users/Oxer/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/SketchyPhysics3/sketchyphysicstool.rb:1623:in `new'
/Users/Oxer/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/SketchyPhysics3/sketchyphysicstool.rb:1623:in `startphysics'
/Users/Oxer/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/SketchyPhysics3/sketchyphysicstool.rb:1650:in `physicsTogglePlay'
/Users/Oxer/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/SketchyPhysics3/sketchyphysicstool.rb:1738]
I have reinstalled SketchyPhysics3.1 and works. -
@hpnisse said:
Hey, robint!
Your chain works perfect when you set the collision state correct in every single object
[attachment=0:au7zhech]<!-- ia0 -->Re. my chain 1.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:au7zhech]Hi H
Thanks for that tip, the model chain works for me now, but I dont understand how setting the object state to "show collision geometry" makes such a radicle difference?
obviously i dont understand this state? I looked on the tutor manual but that wasnt helpful
so i am puzzlednice that one can actually make a set of revolving links
What we need now is a workable spring (with variable rate and damping). the legacy one only works in sp2.3 not in 3.2. perhaps its work in progress
can anyone tell me if joints have a built in friction?
A simple pendulum will slowly come to rest, so there must be some restraint or energy loss built in? is this variable?
in mechanical systems you need mass, stored energy (spring) and friction (damping) preferably using SI units so as to start physical modelling
BTW I was once involved with a brilliant guy who made an amazing music generating prog that allowed exploration of scales, rhythms etc. BUT he was a C++ script magician and his prog became a tangle compost heap of widgets with a poor and almost unusable manual. I tried to help sort out the mess but the guy simply couldnt organise his thoughts in a consistant and methodical manner so his brialliant concepts came to nought as prospective users lost enthusiasm and gave up.
If anyone is preparing to organise a proper manual for SP4 then I can offer my 2c worth
cheers
Robin
All good stuff as I had come to a brick wall till now
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hi all
Im posting some models that illustrate some points and queries
all comments gratefully received
Robin
[my cone n ball
rotates using a motor hinge (when will this become reversible?
Two balls used, small one falls to bottom so that larger one is off centre and crawls up the side and out otherwise just drops to bottom.
nice demo of centripetal force and a hollow solid](/uploads/imported_attachments/elvl_myconeandball1.skp)
[my lift ball
tried using lift capsule and got it working, then i moved the capsule and it all fell apart. but now i cannot recreate a lift capsul with a slider or a piston
strikes me that a slider is unnecessry as its the same as a piston but without accel and damping figures - so why bother.](/uploads/imported_attachments/E5tW_myliftball.skp)
[my rotating box
strange that the slider now makes a hinge behave like a servo
If you push tha slider to one end then the cube over turns and starts rotating in an erratic manner (like a ball running up and down a valley then gaining enough momentum to over top and run down the next valley.before (maybe in a previous version of SP this feature would behave like a true reversible motor - now it doesnt? what happened
also if you get it going full speed one way then throw it into full speed other way, it crashes SU](/uploads/imported_attachments/wXwb_myrotatingbox1.skp)
[my spring box
cant get the spring to move at all. is it now not supported in sp3.2 ?](/uploads/imported_attachments/IRVt_myspringbox1.skp)
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Toujours pas de nouvelles pour faire fonctionner ce plug-in sous Mac OS X 10.5.8 avec Google SketchUp ?
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Hi!
Is there a manual for SketchyPhysics for beginners?
If there is one, please upload.
Thank you.Andy
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Indeed a user manual for users that did not used ketchyPhysics before would be nice. I noticed that some beginners tips are to be fond here http://sketchyphysics.wikia.com/wiki/SketchyPhysicsWiki , but I'm sure that version 3.2 have much-much more features than are detailed there.
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Could you do like explosions in a future version? That would be cool!
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MBP with 10.5.8 Thanks!
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