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    • iichiversiiI Offline
      iichiversii
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      I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want................ need I say more 😆

      Bring on the Rain...

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        😄

        Hope to show off more fun stuff once I've completed the rewrite of the core needed to implement the next set of tools and features. Ran into a little roadblock. 😕

        I feel quite bad for having teased people with this for two years! 😞

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • cottyC Offline
          cotty
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          @thomthom said:

          I feel quite bad for having teased people with this for two years! 😞

          In German we say "Vorfreude ist die schönste Freude."
          No idea if the google translation "Anticipation is half the fun." make sense?!

          May the force be with you...

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            At some point the anticipation isn't fun any more...

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • jolranJ Offline
              jolran
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              Wow, performance seems very quick. 👍
              May I ask, is it all Ruby?

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                @jolran said:

                Wow, performance seems very quick. 👍
                May I ask, is it all Ruby?

                At the moment, yes. Though I expect that eventually some will need to be ported to C - like I did with Vertex Tools. But the biggest bottleneck is SketchUp itself - in that adding geometry gets slower the more geometry is already in the model. 😞

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • iichiversiiI Offline
                  iichiversii
                  last edited by

                  Take your time TT, looking forward to the release, it will be an addition to vertex tools, keep up the great work 👍

                  Bring on the Rain...

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                  • jolranJ Offline
                    jolran
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    But the biggest bottleneck is SketchUp itself - in that adding geometry gets slower the more geometry is already in the model

                    You mean the total amount of edges-faces in model or the subdividing procedure?

                    But still, all Ruby you say. That looks like you got some nice realtime response, thought you pulled some C extension on it already.

                    Hope you find time to do some more tutorials on C-extensions later then 😉

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                      cuttingedge
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                      This should be at the very core of Sketchup's future release.. Amazing tool. Your'e brilliant Thomas!..I believe you could author a toolset like T-spline!

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        @jolran said:

                        You mean the total amount of edges-faces in model or the subdividing procedure?

                        Yea, as SketchUp adds geometry it will check the added geometry for intersections and merging. Meaning that for every entity you add it will loop over every other entity. So it's not even a linear degradation of performance - it's just get horribly slow quickly. 😞

                        @jolran said:

                        But still, all Ruby you say. That looks like you got some nice realtime response, thought you pulled some C extension on it already.

                        At the moment it's ok for the tests I do. I mean, it's not the biggest test models because I haven't made the tools to create anything useful. But once the tools are taking into place I need to focus on performance and the calculation of the bezier curves will most likely need to be ported to C.
                        At the moment I reduce the subdivisions when the tools are editing the mesh, for a faster response. But I might try to just draw virtual mesh with OpenGL draw commands, like I played around with in my Catmull-clart subdivision experiment: http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=333&t=47691&p=427968#p427968
                        Problem with that is there is no shading of the polygons, so you lose some feeling of the surface since it's just flat shading. Not sure how to do that in the end - kindof hopes for some amazing new feature in SketchUp that will make this easier.

                        @jolran said:

                        Hope you find time to do some more tutorials on C-extensions later then 😉

                        I have some projects that need C Extensions, and usually when I venture off into unknown territories I need to write stuff down so I remember it. Tutorials, guides or blog posts are great for this. It forces you to think about what you think you know.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          @cuttingedge said:

                          I believe you could author a toolset like T-spline!

                          I don't know about that, least not yet. I'm struggling with the math of plain ol' bezier patches. T-Splines is some very clever stuff.

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            jchau2007
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                            TT,
                            Please update us as to where you are at with the Bezier Surfae tool development. We are all waiting on this one for a long time. Well let say you are crossing over two franchises, from Google to now Trimble.

                            thanks,
                            James

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
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                              Yea, it's been taking a long time. It's been a much bigger project than I'd imagined.

                              I've done, what I think, is most of the core. I've begun to work on the tools to manipulate the meshes now.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • D Offline
                                dmatho
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                                Where's the "Super Like" button? 👍

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
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                                  @thomthom said:

                                  Yea, it's been taking a long time. It's been a much bigger project than I'd imagined.

                                  I've done, what I think, is most of the core. I've begun to work on the tools to manipulate the meshes now.

                                  "Courage" Thom! this is going to be a wonderful tool, an indispensable one. May be your "Chef d'oeuvre".

                                  ++simon

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
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                                    I think it's best if I aim for a more basic first release - then do more continuous smaller updates evolving it.

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      interior_design
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                                      Many thanks Mr. Thomas for the great efforts in providing very useful plugines for SU. I really aspire to have this plugin into geometry application of SU very soon. I know it is a big project that you didn't imagine it would take that much of time, but at least you got an idea now about the remaining percentage of completing this project.

                                      Regards,

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        Bezier Surface is now free and open source!
                                        http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2014/11/bezier-surface-for-sketchup-is-now-open-source/

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • pbacotP Offline
                                          pbacot
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                                          Woohoo! (where is everyone?). Thanks TT!

                                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                            unclex
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                                            It's really nice!!!!!!!!
                                            But unfortunately, I can only drug out the Purple Grid, cannot double clicked and continued, just showing
                                            Bezier Surface Updating.....
                                            win8.1x64 @SU2015x64 & SU2013, both happened
                                            Should be there any bugs with others plugins?

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