RANT!!
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cables-spying-un?intcmp=239
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What's this world coming to...
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I seriously can't be the only one who feels these sort of practices are questionable. If it were any other country than the US - say Iran, or North Korea
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@unknownuser said:
I seriously can't be the only one who feels these sort of practices are questionable. If it were any other country than the US - say Iran, or North Korea
- there'd be serious consequences.They simply don't have the resources, you can bet they would if they could. The thing that bugs me about wikileaks is that they seem to specifically target the US... Why aren't they digging up dirt on Russia? The UK? China? ...as if the US is alone in saying or doing stupid things in regards to foreign relations. I guess seeing as the Russians are allegedly "in bed with organized crime" according to wikileaks, they'd just send someone to kill Assange and be done with it. It's also interesting to note the gems in there - Saudis pushing US to invade Iran, a N/S Korea unification plan backed by China, China behind cyber-attacks on the US...
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Jeff, the wikileaks does not only expose the USA, it also leaves egg on the face of the Saudi's and a few other middle eastern puppet governments.
Another thing you must realise is this info was available to more than 100.000 government officials in the US, so if it really was so secretive they did a sucky job at keeping it a secret.
Maybe getting info from places like China, Russia, Uk, etc is more difficult because they keep them better?Personally I think wikileaks is a great thing, remember the WW2 saying "loose lips sink ships"? we need to relearn history.
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I understand that the dirt gets spread around a little by proxy, but the info is still from US documents. The US has had a tight grip on many things for a while, and yes, maybe they do need a kick in the butt to get things right - but I doubt the outcome will be good. If someone expects more openness and an apologetic US I think they are wrong, they are likely to get the opposite, including more aggressive and punitive actions with loose justification to go after the perpetrators. That's simply the way things are headed here.
What really ticks me off was the guy that downloaded and distributed the info was a US soldier. What the heck was he thinking? I'm not a rah-rah patriot, USA! USA! type at all, in fact I find that embarrassing, but when you sign up for the military and swear to protect secrets, this is unbelievable. It's one thing to blow the whistle on something bad, say hypothetically the military is dumping thousands of gallons of radioactive waste into the ocean on the sly, but another to leak it because he wanted to prove it was easily done (according to one report), among other reasons.
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You know, the more I read about this "leak" I wonder, was it really a leak?
Okay so it is a little embarrassing for a few diplomats, okay so the world now knows what we think of certain world leaders (who probably already knew these facts anyway). But did the world know about who is supporting Hezbollah?, does the world know that the Muslim world is divided on Iran?
I dunno, but this is more damning on Iran and middle eastern countries than America, who knows this could have been a great play if intended.
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Indeed.
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@solo said:
I dunno, but this is more damning on Iran and middle eastern countries than America, who knows this could have been a great play if intended.
Possibly. Perhaps the US is trying to put pressure on the Chinese?
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Best quote I've read in a long time, Jon Stewart on the war in the middle east:
"So if we give them money for oil, that allows them to buy weapons from us with a little left over to fund terrorist groups that we must then send our military over to fight, which costs a lot of money and fuel (which we buy from them). It's like we're the commission-less middlemen in a war we're waging on ourselves."
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@unknownuser said:
I seriously can't be the only one who feels these sort of practices are questionable. If it were any other country than the US - say Iran, or North Korea
- there'd be serious consequences.Chances are, other countries aren't too vocal in condemning these practices is because they are just a guilty.
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I am so damn tired of trying to make Storefront or Curtainwall Wall elements work properly in Revit. Whoever wrote the code should be strung up by their balls.
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@unknownuser said:
I am so damn tired of trying to make Storefront or Curtainwall Wall elements work properly in Revit. Whoever wrote the code should be strung up by their balls.
I think you can team up with the Revit guys at my office. (Just don't mention the stair tool.)
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Or railings for that matter. Must have been the same programmers.
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@daniel said:
@unknownuser said:
I seriously can't be the only one who feels these sort of practices are questionable. If it were any other country than the US - say Iran, or North Korea
- there'd be serious consequences.Chances are, other countries aren't too vocal in condemning these practices is because they are just a guilty.
Yes ... I'm afraid that may very well be true. Although I'm sure they're not that keen on p*ssing off the US either. Apart from Venezuela, that is.
@unknownuser said:
I am so damn tired of trying to make Storefront or Curtainwall Wall elements work properly in Revit. Whoever wrote the code should be strung up by their balls.
Nice one, mr. L. -
OMG!!~!
Really? no way, only in America.
I'm at a loss for words, this is what they want to teach our kids.
[flash=600,400:2ybuoyor]http://www.youtube.com/v/rDB0A23jcNI&feature=player_embedded[/flash:2ybuoyor]
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I'm just floored by this, these are elected officials, how do you deal with ignorance of this magnitude?
So... back to the bible story, how big exactly was this ark? we gonna have to recalculate as those dinosaurs were pretty big critters.
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