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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      hmm.. scratch that quad click thing.. triple click works fine on my laptop and selecting is a little faster as well (2x 2.66 i7).. must be a mouse setting.

      subdivide and smooth was noticeably slower though than my desktop (quad xeon 2.66).. the first sds operation is nearly instant with 4 iterations but doing it again with 1 iteration takes a while..

      curious adam, what happens if you select all (ctrlA on windows?) on that shape in su8?

      that's insta select for me even with hidden geometry turned on.

      dotdotdot

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      • AdamBA Offline
        AdamB
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        @earthmover said:

        Anyone else finding Sketchup 8 to be very slow at mesh selection? I first noticed while selecting terrains and didn't give it much thought, but I kept finding it SU would hang when picking just "surface" area...which is odd. I decided to do some tests with SU 7.1 and SU 8. Huge difference!!

        I edited the video to cut out some of the waiting for SU8 to process. Basically what took SU 7.1 a few seconds to select, took SU8 three minutes to select!

        You may be right but its a bit surprising SU8 would be so much slower. The first thing I'd check is that you don't have a Ruby script that is watching each and every Selection you make and slowing everything down.

        Adam

        Developer of LightUp Click for website

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        • J Offline
          Jim
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          The things that kill the speed for me are Shadows and Fast Feedback.

          Hi

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          • EarthMoverE Offline
            EarthMover
            last edited by

            Thanks Jeff, Adam & Jim.

            Jeff, Ctrl A was a bit faster, but not too much. Still at a turtles pace compared to SU7.1.

            Adam, I tried checking the ruby console when selecting a surface, but nothing there. I also thought it may be the RP tools plugin causing the slow down as one of the icons seems to gray out while selecting a surface. I uninstalled and it didn't help. Other than that, not sure to see what plugins would be causing it. I guess I will remove them all except for SDS and check again.

            I also reinstalled SU8 and that didn't help.

            Jim, I check and I actually had "Fast Feedback" checked in 7.1 and not in 8, so I enabled it in 8, but it didn't seem to help either. You say "fast feedback" slows things down? Is this because the video card is working faster than the cpu can keep up with?

            It would be nice if someone on a windows machine could try and subdivide a box to 5 iterations and see if there drag selection time is similar. It's obviously not a system issue as I'm testing both versions on the same machine. I'm also pretty sure it's been like this since the first day I upgraded. 😕

            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
            Content Creator at Skapeup

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by

              Win7 / Dual Core / ATI Radeon 4500
              Adam Test.gif

              SU8 was slower slightly, but the application minimized after selection. Normally happens on my system when SU goes for a bit of a think. It usually means it's finished!

              Hope this helps...

              Rich

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              • P Offline
                Panga
                last edited by

                I have the same issue on selection in SU 8, much slower than 7.1...Boring.

                EDIT : Sorry, I was wrong, SO MUCH SLOWER....please Google correct this !! More than five minutes to select all faces and edges of a terrain made with the sandbox. !!! where 7.1 did it in 10 seconds.... (60670 entities).

                EDIT : My configuration : HP Z600 workstation, Bi-Xeon, 8gb ram, quadro fx 1800, last nvidia driver.

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                • EarthMoverE Offline
                  EarthMover
                  last edited by

                  I removed all plugins except for SDS and tried the same test. Selection speed was back to normal. Hmmmm? So, it's either a plugin that I've added since the upgrade to 8, or there is an issue with an old plugin that is experiencing a stall within the new Ruby infrastructure. Good news - I narrowed it down to a plugin issue and not a Sketchup issue....Bad news - I have 8 million plugins and checking them one by one will take all year! 😆 😒

                  3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                  Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                  Content Creator at Skapeup

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    I replicated this on a second machine and got same result. Slower but not 5 minutes only seconds.

                    Do you have LSS Toolbar installed? This created havoc with my SU8. Graphical anomalies and performance degradation.

                    Just a thought...

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                    • EarthMoverE Offline
                      EarthMover
                      last edited by

                      Thanks Rich! No, I tried and remove the LSS toolbar back in 7.1 as I had issues with it as well. I'll work at finding the culprit and post the results if I do.

                      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                      Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                      Content Creator at Skapeup

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                      • P Offline
                        Panga
                        last edited by

                        I'll also have to remove one by one my plugins in order to see which one cause the problem. I'll give feedback soon.

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          have either of you removed all of your plugins to see if it is in fact a plugin causing this?
                          just curious

                          dotdotdot

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                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                            EarthMover
                            last edited by

                            FOUND IT! - Render(In) plugin I installed one of the early Beta builds, played with it once or twice and left it sitting in there to reek hell on my workflow! Perhaps it's an issue that is fixed now in one of the new releases. What a relief that is. And it was a good excuse to clean out my ruby closet!

                            Thanks to everyone who helped me get to the bottom of this. It will definitely save me from a few more gray hairs!

                            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                            Content Creator at Skapeup

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                            • P Offline
                              Panga
                              last edited by

                              Hi Earthmover,

                              I have the same problem on my office computer but do not have render(in) plugin installed. I hope it's another plugin of mine that causes the problem...I'll continue to search for it.

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                @earthmover said:

                                FOUND IT! - Render(In) plugin

                                wow, that's nasty.
                                just installed on mac to see if it causes the same problem and yes, it does..

                                dotdotdot

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                                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  @Jeff,

                                  Is the current RenderIn(latest release) causing issues?

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    @Jeff,

                                    Is the current RenderIn(latest release) causing issues?

                                    yes, the one dated sept 17, 10
                                    v0.81

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • P Offline
                                      Panga
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok, in fact I had also the Renderin plugin installed. Removed it and the problem's gone. My apologies to Google team for putting responsability on SU8 😳

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                                        solo
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                                        lol..


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                                          Panga
                                          last edited by

                                          😄

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                                            draner5
                                            last edited by

                                            bonjour,
                                            je rencontre un problème de lenteur avec sketchup pro 2014 avec un modèle de 57 Mo, ce qui est normal vue la taille; mais avec un autre modèle de seulement 700 Ko cela devient une éxtrème lenteur (plusieures minutes quelque-soit la commande utilisée) ce qui n'est pas normal vue la faible taille du modèle conçu de la mème façon que le modèle 57 Mo.Pourquoi le modèle le plus leger est-il beaucoup plus lent que le plus lourd?
                                            Merci

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