House plans
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maybe something like this.. (though i'm willing to bet the back of the house has something different going on with the roof than a single plane but it's impossible to tell using only your references)
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I'm still working on it. I have till Oct the 8th,but just want to say that there are some really cool and helpful people on this forum! There are a lot of things other than the roof that will have to be worked on after that date but thanks for all the help!
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i messed up in the first version i posted because i forgot about the porch..
this newer version includes the porch roof and in turn, makes much more sense..
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That's very generous of you Jeff
The roof geometry was bugging me also after seeing it yesterday. I think your latter solution is correct although I don't think much of the original roof design .... forced 'eye candy'?
Mike
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@mike lucey said:
That's very generous of you Jeff
The roof geometry was bugging me also after seeing it yesterday. I think your latter solution is correct although I don't think much of the original roof design .... forced 'eye candy'?
Mike
i still think it's wrong though.. this is a start.. i bet the front slope is 30deg (or probably, something like 7:12 all around) which will match the sides.. notice the chimney is behind the ridge but on the version i drew, it would end up in front of the ridge.. i have an idea of what this roof actually looks like (open terrace in the back).. i'll draw up version 3 a little later
(unless someone beats me to it
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I hate it when I can't figure things out! But in this case I'm okay with it as you will be doing it I'm staying tuned -
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yeah, that's getting real close david.. the tallest part of the roof isn't pointed though when viewed from the front..
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I think David's last sketch has almost got it far as the back half but still having trouble bring the what looks like a 12on12 pitched roof in the very front into the picture and tieing it all in to make it look right.
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Ok so here is my attempt. You really have 2 choices here either blend that porch roof
in with the main roof or as the picture really shows is to keep the porch roof separate all together like my attempt. You can play with the hieghts of the plates, like the pictures shows. IMO there are 3 plate heights here 8', 9' and something taller for the porch.
If we are going with the porch all separate then a roof cricket to drain behind that this roof has to be utilized. Although if you're in snow areas I wouldn't attempt this without some type of ice and water shield.
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Waldo1234,Thanks for the try but I'm still not sure thats it. Here is a little picture I found of the rear view of a house that is similar. So this tells me it ties in to the main roof but still having problems!
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that sort of confirms my suspicions that there isn't a small rise in the ridge.. the front view is being shown from a lower perspective than the roof line so it appears as if there's a bump up but it might be straight.. measurement wise, it show's they are the same height.
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One may try drawing the roof plan first, before modeling. I think the front elevation indicates a plate height change for the side elements, not to mention the porch element. I also don't think the rear view is showing the same roof, just by looking at the profile, which shows all the same high pitch, whereas the front view shows two different pitches. Moreover the rear elevation shows a projecting bay, which is not indicated on the floor plan.
Do you want a roof that will look like the elevation, given the floor plan? Is that the original intent?
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The rear view is of a different house pbacot.I was showing it cause it was similar to the one I was trying to draw and to be make sure the porch roof connected to the main roof. The plate heights change I believe is just the front view of the drawing tilted up a little I think? I believe they are all at 9'-0" elevation? Yes the porch is of a different pitch, The main building is 7 on 12 while the porch I believe is 12 on 12. Yes I am trying to draw the house just as it is in the picture.
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Comparing the height of the eave above the windows, the drawing looks to indicate a plate change to me. In perspective the piece of wall above the windows would look the same if the plates are the same. But it complicates things. The drawing might be fudged for interest? It would seem the garage roof and plate is dropped, but how that would work with the area behind the garage is unclear. I will give this a try, after chores.
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Here's my guess at last.
If you look at the plan below the roof model, I started using the rear slope (7:12) to complete the front high roof as indicated in previous posts. However I thought this looked worse so I changed it in the model to be 12:12 all sides of the front high roof. I also dropped the garage roof eave in the model, as I think this makes the symmetrical part work better. However that requires that you push the door wall of the garage out a little (no big deal), so the resulting roof works with the master bedroom roof.
I left the "terrace" uncovered. I think that is a better design and creates the roof ridge of the central 7:12 in accordance with the elevation (not so high). Besides the plan has a dotted line at the "porch" indicating it is covered perhaps and the "terrace" is not. I scaled off the graphic and I think my roof is scaled different than yours, but the concept is there.
The top of the high front roof is not to be flat really. You'd have a low slope in four directions, but you'd not see it really. Or a skylight with a dramatic shaft in the great room.
OK-- so I see in yours the high pitch is only on two sides, that makes the ridge for the front element work. That looks pretty good. I wonder though if you can make the lower roof each side of that have more ridge and be symmetrical, plan allowing, to create a better visual support for the high roof. Good luck. Peter
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