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    • daleD Offline
      dale
      last edited by

      @solo said:

      There is a line between fine design and good design, IMO fine design is aesthetically nice and good design is functionally good. I guess it all goes back to the old form vs function debates.

      I often page through a Dwell magazine and I'm attracted to the wonderful lines, great reflective materials and minimalist scenes, but I would not live in such a place as it's probably cold, lacks cabinets, not functional.

      Pete, I was just looking, well actually marveling, at a picture of the interior of a "modern" home given to me by a client. It was as you described "wonderful lines, great reflective materials and minimalist scenes", and I really loved it, but, at the same time I just couldn't for the life of me picture a baby crawling on those reflective marble floors or flinging mushed peas around the kitchen, let alone the dining room. It looked as if it was intended to be looked at and appreciated, but not really lived in.
      Given what you said about form and function, this would be Fine Design, and I think it was, but...

      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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      • stefanqS Offline
        stefanq
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        Mayor, thanks for the link. In my country, people homes are big, ugly, inefficient in every aspect. People with money, of course.
        It strikes me every time I read something like this:
        "The house requires a heating system with an output of just 4 kW (the equivalent of a single radiator) for the entire 200 sqm house! Facit buildings are designed to be airtight, so as not to lose heat. This necessitates the implementation of a heat recovery system that draws in fresh air and expels stale air, while retaining the warmth."
        And by the way....the houses are beautiful! πŸ‘
        Cheers!
        Stefan

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        • Mike LuceyM Offline
          Mike Lucey
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          What interests me most about the FACIT crew is that they are a D&B firm. I think there is a lot of merit in these types of firms as they are able to see the job through from start to finish and of course include the client in each step along the way.

          They must also develop good solid practical construction methods as it would not be the case of the designer just 'getting it right' on paper. In this case the fabricator would most definitely have his say on what works for him on site. The video also seems to get this message across quite well, this is what I read into areas anyway.

          From what I gather these types of firms are common place in Scandinavia but again this does not surprise me as those guys often lead the way in many areas.

          I suppose the only drawback for the client, if it could be construed as a drawback, is that a particular D&B firm might only concentrate on producing a particular design style range. But again, this could leave things open to various D&B firms offering a variety of design 'style' solutions. Everyone is not on the same hymn book, so to speak πŸ˜‰

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
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            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            • Mike LuceyM Offline
              Mike Lucey
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              Wouldn't like those at all Pete. I like to eat eggs, not sit in them πŸ˜„

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              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                Mike Lucey
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                The GoCar concept by AS Design is a clever design but probably will never see the light of day.

                On the other hand I think the Urban Arrow will see full production. Its not a new concept but a very clever adaptation of existing bike design configurations. Then again the Dutch are very much into their bikes.


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                • bmikeB Offline
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                  I really miss our Bakfiets... nothing better for kid / grocery / spouse hauling.

                  https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1HiLi83jDDY/SPFK9EGwMPI/AAAAAAAAGQ0/yU2qN6jC9RI/s800/IMG_6434.JPG

                  https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Y1vgG-8uNxA/SPFLER0vxSI/AAAAAAAAGRM/swz_FHEM81w/s800/IMG_6440.JPG

                  mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                  • W Offline
                    watkins
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                    The Hostry at Norwich Cathedral:

                    http://www.cathedral.org.uk/aboutus/the-hostry-norwich-cathedral-hostry-visitor-and-education-centre1.aspx

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                    (www.frrarchitects.co.uk)

                    Regards,
                    Bob

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                    • daleD Offline
                      dale
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                      A teaser for watkins post. WowScreen shot 2012-08-27 at 9.17.14 AM.png

                      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                      • W Offline
                        watkins
                        last edited by

                        St Edmundsbury Cathedral vaulted ceiling; a more traditional approach:

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                        The videos are well worth watching as they describe the construction of the ceiling.

                        Regards,
                        Bob

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                        • daleD Offline
                          dale
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                          The Running Bike

                          Inspiration

                          After analysing the original running machine constructed by Karl Freiherr von Drais, the inventor of the velocipede that was basic to the bicycle, we liked to revive that principle. So we put some questions: β€œDoes the running machine make any sense for adults nowadays? If yes, how and where could it be useful?” β€œHow can we offer a certain amount of mobility to people, who are by any reason not able to ride a bike (or drive a car)?”
                          http://www.jamesdysonaward.org/Projects/Project.aspx?ID=3167&RegionId=0&Winindex=5Screen shot 2012-08-29 at 5.36.58 AM.pngScreen shot 2012-08-29 at 5.37.15 AM.png


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                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                            Mike Lucey
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                            The guy demoing the running bike does not look confident to me. I could see people catching their feet in the rear wheel spokes also ...... and besides ....... he does look like a plonker shuffling along on it πŸ˜†

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                            • Mike LuceyM Offline
                              Mike Lucey
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                              ... another thing! I imagine it would be tricky getting up from a fall with that harness and it could do some damage to the 'crown jewels' into the bargain 😲

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                              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                Mike Lucey
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                                .... this guy has a 'death wish' πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„


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                                • daleD Offline
                                  dale
                                  last edited by

                                  🀣
                                  Yes I confess, this had me a little concerned

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                                  Also, when he nearly terminates the little girl in the square 😲
                                  Also doesn't having pedals kind of put physics on your side?
                                  The thing that interests me is that this is a student competition sponsored by James Dyson with reasonable prizes.
                                  This one was probably more worthy of the Fine design designation http://www.jamesdysonaward.org/Projects/Project.aspx?ID=2946&RegionId=0&Winindex=0
                                  But there was a bike theme going so....

                                  Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                  • bmikeB Offline
                                    bmike
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                                    guy who 'invented' this bike lives around the corner from me.
                                    you use a running / walking motion with your legs. no circles.
                                    up down up down up down.
                                    really weird to see it go down the street.

                                    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tB5VcV5YChw/Tt9_dU1vVrI/AAAAAAAAAX8/3zhBTMJbhE8/s400/IMG_0315.JPG

                                    seems really counter intuitive to me... but i like spinning, and feel its actually easier on the knees.

                                    still has gears though, so you maintain some of the mechanical advantage of the modern bike.

                                    mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                                    • daleD Offline
                                      dale
                                      last edited by

                                      Ah, so it almost works like the Nordic Track exercise machine by the looks of it. That's quite cool.

                                      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                      • bmikeB Offline
                                        bmike
                                        last edited by

                                        @dale said:

                                        Ah, so it almost works like the Nordic Track exercise machine by the looks of it. That's quite cool.

                                        yeah, it is similar.
                                        problem for me is that when i walk, my arms tend to move.
                                        when i run, they definitely move.

                                        on a bicycle with a typical crank, the feet move in circles, different than walking, so unless one is hammering up a hill, arms and upper body can remain quiet.

                                        mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                                        • ToboboT Offline
                                          Tobobo
                                          last edited by

                                          Speaking of design,

                                          This book is very interesting

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                                          Toby

                                          Philippians 4:13

                                          I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                                          • soloS Offline
                                            solo
                                            last edited by

                                            Fine design...maybe, genius...hell yeah!

                                            http://www.vestergaard-frandsen.com/lifestraw

                                            http://www.vestergaard-frandsen.com/images/stories/LifeStraw/LifeStraw/child-drinking-LifeStraw-with-metal-bowl.jpg

                                            The Life straw!!

                                            http://www.solos-art.com

                                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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