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    • B Offline
      bentleykfrog
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      Dan, your advice is invaluable. There's still a couple of things I'm concerned about:

      @dan rathbun said:

      The way I had it.. it would use __FILE__ as a default for non-scrambled files, and insist on a explicit assignment of the @@tool_filepath variable for rbs files.
      By instead, adding the required argument script_folder to the lins_setup() method, you have also defeated the default initialize() method that is mixed in (it has no arguments in the lins_setup() call.)
      I think it will work better for newbie's the previous way.

      The issue I had with the previous version was the way that load_instructor.rb constructed the default path to the /instructor/ folder. The previous version used __FILE__ from /mixin/load_instructor.rb and then navigated back to the folder that contained the /mixin/ folder. From that path it used /instructor/, so it meant that you would have issues if you had more than one ruby script using Load Instructor. So there needs to be a string attribute that identifies the name of the folder that contains /instructor/ to avoid this conflict between plugins. If the LoadInstructor mixin is going to be stored in a file that is separate from your script then calling __FILE__ will only be able to identify /load_instructor.rb and wont be able to identify the filename of the script that the LoadInstructor mixin was loaded into (unless there's a method for getting around this).

      Regarding the @@tool_filepath issue, you should still be able to declare these paths in the second and third attributes of lins_setup()? like:

      @@tool_filepath = VertexToolsPath
      
      def initialize
        instructor_folder = File.join( @@tool_filepath ,'your_scripts_folder/instructor')
        temp_folder       = (RUBY_PLATFORM =~ /darwin/i) ? '' ; File.join(ENV["TEMP"], 'your_scripts_folder/instructor')
        lins_setup('',instructor_folder,temp_folder)
      end
      

      And if you're storing all the files beneath any of the load path's, you shouldn't need to worry about the second and third attributes, or @@tool_filepath for that matter, like:

      def initialize
        lins_setup('your_scripts_folder')
      end
      

      @dan rathbun said:

      The $LOAD_PATH members can be manipulated. Making an assumption about where the the first member points could cause problems. (Refering to the lins_get_default_instructor_folder() method.)

      Hmmm, it should be best then if I threw an error if the /instructor/ folder can't be found, like (using your @@tool_filepath check):

      def lins_get_default_instructor_folder(script_folder)
        instructor_folder = ''
        $LOAD_PATH.each {|load_path|
          check_path = File.join(load_path, script_folder, 'instructor')
          if check_path != '(eval)' && File.exist?(check_path)
            instructor_folder = File.join(load_path, script_folder, 'instructor')
            break
          end
        }
        if instructor_folder.empty?
          file_path = File.join(script_folder, 'instructor')
          raise(ScriptError,"#{self.class.name}; Instructor folder error. Could not find #{file_path} beneath any of the $LOAD_PATH's.")
        else
          return instructor_folder
        end #if
      end #def
      

      I've adopted all your other suggestions to the script, I just have to sort out the former issues before I'll produce the first release.

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      • Dan RathbunD Offline
        Dan Rathbun
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        Niall... I am sorry. I've got my head wrapped around another project, and I was not seeing the obvious here.

        YOU cannot use __FILE__ at all, in your mixin code. Because it's a special Ruby keyword that gets evaluated when the mixin is parsed.

        I was thinking wrongly that it's evaluation would be defered if it was used inside a method (the "setup" method.)

        The tool author CAN use __FILE__ if his script is unscrambled, otherwise if he scrambles his tool code, he must use a rbs loader where he should set a constant (like ThomThom's example.)

        The tool author only cares where YOUR code is when he uses the require() statement which should find it via the $LOAD_PATH array. Otherwise where the mixin file resides (it's path,) has no bearing on anything else. (Once it's loaded.. it is refered to as Mixin::LoadInstructor and it's path is irrelevant.)

        So really yout mixin NEEDS to use the @@tool_filepath class variable in both cases (an rb or rbs.)

        And the tool author needs to always set it to the path of his tool script file, either:
        @@tool_filepath = __FILE__ # for unscrambled
        or
        @@tool_filepath = SOME_CONSTANT # (or a literal,) for scrambled rbs.
        If the author is smart, they will wrap their loader and declare their path constant, in the same tool class namespace their rbs code in wrapped in.

        I'm not here much anymore.

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        • Dan RathbunD Offline
          Dan Rathbun
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          @bentleykfrog said:

          Dan, your advice is invaluable. There's still a couple of things I'm concerned about:

          Regarding the @@tool_filepath issue, you should still be able to declare these paths in the second and third attributes of lins_setup()? like:

          @@tool_filepath would contain the "your_scripts_folder" so to get just the path part use:
          File.dirname(@@tool_filepath)
          which removes the actual tool script filename, leaving the relative path from one of the $LOAD_PATH members. You can then expand it to get the tool script's absolute folder path.

          So your thinking.. what's the difference in making the author use a variable or making them use a method argument ??
          Well IMHO the variable is cleaner, set once and forget. And that variable can be referenced by other methods written by the tool author.

          Here's an example of a rbs loader script that loads a scrambled tool script named testtool.rbs:

          module Niall
            class TestTool
              require('mixin/load_instructor.rb')
              include( Mixin;;LoadInstructor )
              @@tool_filepath = File.dirname(__FILE__)+'/testtool.rbs'
              Sketchup.require( @@tool_filepath )
            end # class
          end # module
          

          In this example, the author does the 'mixing' in the loader, sets @@tool_filepath and uses it in his call to load the rbs.

          I'm not here much anymore.

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          • B Offline
            bentleykfrog
            last edited by

            @dan rathbun said:

            Here's an example of a rbs loader script that loads a scrambled tool script named testtool.rbs:

            module Niall
            >   class TestTool
            >     require('mixin/load_instructor.rb')
            >     include( Mixin;;LoadInstructor )
            >     @@tool_filepath = File.dirname(__FILE__)+'/testtool.rbs'
            >     Sketchup.require( @@tool_filepath )
            >   end # class
            > end # module
            

            In this example, the author does the 'mixing' in the loader, sets @@tool_filepath and uses it in his call to load the rbs.

            Thats cool then, I don't really see an issue passing @@tool_filepath as an argument to lins_setup(). With default values and your script in the $LOAD_PATH's, lins_setup('my_scripts_files') won't require @@tool_filepath. You'll just need it for requiring the mixin possibly? With custom values you'll need to pass absolute values as the second and third arguments so you'll need to use File.join( @@tool_filepath, 'my_scripts_files/instructor-boogaloo'), so that's quite easy to do, and I've documented it under Advanced Use.

            Looks like I'm ready to release this code, I'll start a new topic.

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            • Dan RathbunD Offline
              Dan Rathbun
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              @bentleykfrog said:

              Thats cool then, I don't really see an issue passing @@tool_filepath as an argument to lins_setup(). With default values and your script in the $LOAD_PATH's, lins_setup('my_scripts_files') won't require @@tool_filepath.

              You're missing the point of the @@tool_filepath variable.
              In the simple default mode, YOU set the script_folder argument of lins_setup() to have a default value so the method can be called with no arguments, like so:
              def lins_setup( instructor_folder=false, temp_folder=false, script_folder=File.dirname(@@tool_filepath) )

              The absolute path to help content would be:
              instructor_folder = 'instructor' if instructor_folder==false File.expand_path("#{script_folder}/#{instructor_folder}")

              I show the script_folder argument on the end, as it's least likely authors will override that argument's default, and most likely wish to specify a custom help content folder name. (Specifying a custom Temp dir would fall in the middle.)

              @bentleykfrog said:

              You'll just need it [ @@tool_filepath] for requiring the mixin possibly?

              No.. the plugin script's path has nothing to do with what path the user decides to use for their mixin library. The mixin lbrary folder should be in a subfolder of one of the $LOAD_PATH members, so Ruby will have no problem finding it.

              @bentleykfrog said:

              With custom values you'll need to pass absolute values as the second and third arguments so you'll need to use File.join( @@tool_filepath, 'my_scripts_files/instructor-boogaloo'), so that's quite easy to do, and I've documented it under Advanced Use.

              Actually as I said (above,) it's:
              File.dirname(@@tool_filepath)
              as @@tool_filepath will be a relative path that contains the tool script filename on the end.

              I'm not here much anymore.

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              • B Offline
                bentleykfrog
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                @dan rathbun said:

                @bentleykfrog said:

                Thats cool then, I don't really see an issue passing @@tool_filepath as an argument to lins_setup(). With default values and your script in the $LOAD_PATH's, lins_setup('my_scripts_files') won't require @@tool_filepath.

                You're missing the point of the @@tool_filepath variable.
                In the simple default mode, YOU set the script_folder argument of lins_setup() to have a default value so the method can be called with no arguments, like so:
                def lins_setup( instructor_folder=false, temp_folder=false, script_folder=File.dirname(@@tool_filepath) )

                I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. In the code's current state, using the default mode, the script_folder argument just specifies a relative path from any of the $LOAD_PATH's to the 'instructor' folder's parent. So absolute paths from different volumes won't work with this, unfortunately. The default mode assumes that you'll have access to the $LOAD_PATH's, or use a script that adds accessible folder to the $LOAD_PATH. Some plugin loader's don't do this 😞

                @dan rathbun said:

                @bentleykfrog said:

                You'll just need it [ @@tool_filepath] for requiring the mixin possibly?

                No.. the plugin script's path has nothing to do with what path the user decides to use for their mixin library. The mixin lbrary folder should be in a subfolder of one of the $LOAD_PATH members, so Ruby will have no problem finding it.

                Ahh, I see. In my case, using Alex's Plugin Loader, when a new script is loaded $LOAD_PATH's aren't updated to show the file's folder location. So I'm thinking of instances where a Sketchup user doesn't have access to the $LOAD_PATH's but does have a plugin loader script installed. So in this case, you would need to bundle up load_instructor.rb with your plugin's files. Then, we need to pass an absolute path to require() representing the location of load_instructor.rb. I was thinking that you would use File.dirname( @@tool_filepath for this, or in my Advanced Use example for .rb files I use File.dirname( __FILE__ ).

                @dan rathbun said:

                @bentleykfrog said:

                With custom values you'll need to pass absolute values as the second and third arguments so you'll need to use File.join( @@tool_filepath, 'my_scripts_files/instructor-boogaloo'), so that's quite easy to do, and I've documented it under Advanced Use.

                Actually as I said (above,) it's:
                File.dirname(@@tool_filepath)
                as @@tool_filepath will be a relative path that contains the tool script filename on the end.

                You're right, I forgot about that πŸ˜•

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                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                  Dan Rathbun
                  last edited by

                  @bentleykfrog said:

                  I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. In the code's current state, using the default mode, the script_folder argument just specifies a relative path from any of the $LOAD_PATH's to the 'instructor' folder's parent.

                  Exactly as it should be, and what File.dirname(@@tool_filepath) would do, which is why I suggest it as the default value for your script_folder argument.

                  @bentleykfrog said:

                  So absolute paths from different volumes won't work with this, unfortunately. The default mode assumes that you'll have access to the $LOAD_PATH's, or use a script that adds accessible folder to the $LOAD_PATH. Some plugin loader's don't do this 😞

                  They are not supposed to if they are not needed. Kernel.require() can use absolute paths, but it's better, memory wise, if you will be loading multiple scripts from a custom plugins folder (or library folder, using the standard Ruby library folders as an example,) to push that path onto $LOAD_PATH, so that when scripts are loaded, only the relative part, gets pushed into the $" (aka $LOADED_FEATURES) array. Pay no mind to the erroroneous way that Sketchup.require() pushes absolute paths onto $". It's a bug.. and I have entered a report on this.

                  @bentleykfrog said:

                  Ahh, I see. In my case, using Alex's Plugin Loader, when a new script is loaded $LOAD_PATH's aren't updated to show the file's folder location.

                  They are not supposed to. If the script can be found by using one of the members in the $LOAD_PATH array, then there is already an appropriate load path in the array.

                  It is not customary to push every specific plugin folder into $LOAD_PATH if there is already a path in the array, for one of the plugin folder's ancestor directories. (You would run the risk of confusing the require() method, resulting in scripts or library modules getting loaded more than once. That can reset class and module variables causing problems.)

                  @bentleykfrog said:

                  So I'm thinking of instances where a Sketchup user doesn't have access to the $LOAD_PATH's but does have a plugin loader script installed.

                  I don't follow you. The $LOAD_PATH array is a Ruby global. It cannot be garbage collected. A user will always have access to it. However, a script might make a mistake and wipe the members out, resulting in an empty $LOAD_PATH array. There is also the possibility that a user may feel, sometime after startup, that they have loaded all that needs to be loaded from say, the Tools path, and could "pop" that path off the array. But it's more likely they would insert other custom paths at the beginning of the array (if say, they are using a common plugins folder some where else, which can have a drive letter at the beginning.) The require() method does not mind absolute paths on other drives.

                  @bentleykfrog said:

                  So in this case, you would need to bundle up load_instructor.rb with your plugin's files. Then, we need to pass an absolute path to require() representing the location of load_instructor.rb.

                  Again.. No. You are confounding the issues of finding and loading a library file, with the issues of finding and loading a script and it's help content. Apples and Oranges.

                  @bentleykfrog said:

                  I was thinking that you would use File.dirname( @@tool_filepath ) for this, or in my Advanced Use example for .rb files I use File.dirname( __FILE__ ).

                  Oh.. you are refering to the example in Section 3.4
                  That should not be necessary. Unless the author needs to customize the mixin module for his/her own use. In which case they would need to change the module name, or the methods would overwrite a previously loaded edition from another place (required by another tool plugin.)
                  But.. this defeats the general idea of a library. I cannot think of any good reason why that example (3.4) would ever be needed, and it just confuses the issue.
                  ALL users and authors, should just simply follow the instructions in 2.1 and 2.2, and they will then never have any problems requiring or including the load instructor mixin module.


                  So really,.. remove the example in Section 3.4 and consider the issue of finding and loading 'mixin/instructor.rb' done. It's not a problem.


                  I'm not here much anymore.

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                  • B Offline
                    bentleykfrog
                    last edited by

                    Just a quick reply before I have to run some errands.

                    @bentleykfrog said:

                    Ahh, I see. In my case, using Alex's Plugin Loader, when a new script is loaded $LOAD_PATH's aren't updated to show the file's folder location.

                    I should have elaborated on what I meant by $LOAD_PATH. In this case, I meant the folders that are represented in the $LOAD_PATH array. As a case example, take my University. There's only read access granted to anything below C:/Program Files & C:/Program Files (x86). They don't provide a script that will load some read/writeable directories to the $LOAD_PATH array. I'm asserting that if there was a similar setup, but had Alex's Plugin Loader underneath one of the $LOAD_PATH's in C:/Program Files & C:/Program Files (x86), you would need to bundle load_instructor.rb with your script, and provide an absolute path to it using require(). This is probably quite rare though, but its one of the reasons I provide the Advanced Use of the Load Instructor.

                    got to go, will respond to your post in more detail when I get some more free time.

                    -niall

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                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                      Dan Rathbun
                      last edited by

                      @bentleykfrog said:

                      As a case example, take my University. There's only read access granted to anything below C:/Program Files & C:/Program Files (x86).

                      OK I now understand where your coming from. Yes this is one of the issues that caused this topic to begin with.

                      @bentleykfrog said:

                      They don't provide a script that will load some read/writeable directories to the $LOAD_PATH array.

                      They should! Someone needs to convince them to put a simple script that pushes the user's home directory + "/Plugins" onto the $LOAD_PATH array. It's a one-liner.

                      SO am I correct in that each time you run Sketchup at University, you must open the Console and type that one-liner manually? Or perhaps:
                      require_all( "ENV['HOMEPATH']/Plugins" )
                      which will push that path onto $LOAD_PATH for you?

                      @bentleykfrog said:

                      I'm asserting that if there was a similar setup, but had Alex's Plugin Loader underneath one of the $LOAD_PATH's in C:/Program Files & C:/Program Files (x86), you would need to bundle load_instructor.rb with your script, and provide an absolute path to it using require().

                      Bundle perhaps... but even in a specific user's homepath, the library files do not belong beneath any of the script subfolders.

                      The mixin needs to still be installed into a "mixin" folder, or a "lib/mixin" folder.

                      Otherwise what is going happen is users will wind up with more that one copy of your mixin script (perhaps of differing versions,) installed in multiple places. They will insist they have the latest version, but an older version below some plugin's subfolder wil be loading after the newest version, overwriting methods.

                      This will be a headache for you as a library author, because they will come whining to you (in the forums.)
                      Save yourself the trouble... always insist it be only installed once, in a mixin library folder only. (So again Section 3.4 is a bad idea.)

                      Also.. bundling libraries with plugins, generically, is bound to lead to revisioning conflicts. The plugin version is likely to remain stable (once all the kinks are ironed out,) but the libraries will continue to be updated.
                      It is better to have your users follow a link and download a library file (of the latest version,) from the library download page, and install it separately. (I would never allow any plugin author to bundle any of my library files. And I'm sure ThomThom, TIG and other gurus around here wouldn't either. Users need to go to the source and always get the latest library version.)

                      @bentleykfrog said:

                      This is probably quite rare though, but its one of the reasons I provide the Advanced Use of the Load Instructor.

                      Well, the issue of having shared scripts, down in the Program Application path, was a stupid one. And I'm sure it looks really dumb to the guy who originally made the decision, now that he has many more years of experience 'under his belt.'

                      It is not that rare in a network environment, (both Alex and TIG have this problem at their University.)

                      It will become more and more of a problem, as XP support is withdrawn, and more machines are migrated to the "linux-like" Windows 6+.

                      The weird thing is that the Mac edition automatically checks the user library path, but Google did not do it on the PC. (Perhaps because %APPDATA% is by default a hidden / system path.) The answer is simple.. and I've set up my machine this way this past week.
                      I have created user folders under "My Documents/Google Sketchup" and beneath that a "Common", "Sketchup 6", "Sketchup 7" and "Sketchup 8" folders.
                      Your mixin library script has the honor of being the first to be installed into my "Common/Plugins/Mixin" folder. (Now the laborious task of copying all those files from the Program App paths to my new Folders.)

                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                      • Dan RathbunD Offline
                        Dan Rathbun
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                        Here's a version cleaned up and made into a Mixin module.


                        Added Class Variables declarations:

                            # CLASS VARIABLES
                            @@relative_instructor_path = ''
                            @@temp_instructor_folder = false
                        
                            @@tool_filepath = ''  # must be redefined in the Tool class for rbs files
                        
                        

                        Added method definitions:

                            public
                            
                            def relative_instructor_path
                              return @@relative_instructor_path
                            end
                            
                            def temp_instructor_folder
                              return @@temp_instructor_folder
                            end
                        
                         
                            private
                            
                            # initialize()
                            #
                            # Likely to be redefined in the Tool class definition.
                            # We define it here just in case the Tool author does not.
                            #
                            def initialize
                              help_setup()
                            end
                        
                        
                            # help_setup( instructor_folder=false, temp_folder=false )
                            #
                            # Sets up and inits some instance variables used for
                            # the tool's Instructor help system.
                            #
                            # ** Must be called by the Tool's initialize() method. **
                            #
                        		def help_setup(instructor_folder=false, temp_folder=false)
                              #
                              if @@tool_filepath.empty?
                                if __FILE__ != '(eval)' && File.exist?(File.expand_path(__FILE__))
                                  @@tool_filepath = __FILE__
                                else
                                  raise(ScriptError,"#{self.class.name}; @@tool_filepath class variable error. @@tool_filepath must be declared for rbs files!")
                                end
                              else
                                unless File.exist?(File.expand_path(@@tool_filepath))
                                  raise(ScriptError,"#{self.class.name}; @@tool_filepath class variable error. File '#{@@tool_filepath}' does not exist!")
                                end
                              end
                              #
                        			if instructor_folder
                        				@instructor_folder = instructor_folder
                        			else
                        				@instructor_folder = getDefaultInstructorFolder()
                        			end
                        			if temp_folder
                        				@temp_folder = temp_folder
                        			elsif RUBY_PLATFORM =~ /darwin/i # on a Mac
                        				@temp_folder = @instructor_folder
                        			else
                        				@temp_folder = getDefaultTempFolder()
                        			end
                              #
                              @@relative_instructor_path = returnRelativePath()
                              #
                        		end #def help_setup()
                        
                        

                        and:

                            # getInstructorContentDirectory()
                            #
                            # Callback for tool to give Sketchup the relative path
                            # to the tool's help directory.
                            #
                            def getInstructorContentDirectory
                              unless @@temp_instructor_folder
                                # copy help files
                                copyInstructor()
                                @@temp_instructor_folder = returnTempInstructorFolderName()
                              end
                              return @@relative_instructor_path
                            end #def
                        
                        

                        I did not make any changes to the "engine" methods, except:

                        getDefaultInstructorFolder()
                        changed all __FILE__ to @@tool_filepath

                        returnTempInstructorFolderName()
                        inserted a 'short circuit' as the first line, for Macs
                        return @temp_folder if @temp_folder == @instructor_folder

                        File Removed - Get the latest version in Niall's [ code ] topic:
                        [ code ] Load Instructor

                        I also wonder if there should be an AppObserver instance that deletes the temp/instructor file at the end of the session ??

                        I'm not here much anymore.

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