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    • M Offline
      miniellipse
      last edited by

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      I just downloaded this plugin and put it through a simple test. Not sure, what I am doing wrong but it does not seem to recognize a missing face.

      I am using Sketchup version V14.0.4900


      example of plug in not finding a missing face.

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        It's not showing you any problems because there aren't any. You just hid the face so it looks like there's a hole. That's not the same as a missing face. πŸ˜’

        If you actually delete the face, then the plugin shows you the hole. The plugin works just fine.
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        • tt_suT Offline
          tt_su
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          This issue came up with the STL exporter as well.
          Filed new issue: https://bitbucket.org/thomthom/solid-inspector/issue/5/detect-hidden-entities

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            It's not an issue with Solid Inspector or SketchUp seeing the group as a Solid ?
            BUT of course it could flag the 'hidden' parts if its export is critical...

            It only becomes an issue when exporting geometry that ignores Hidden entities, or those on OFF Layers, because then the exported object is no longer a Solid...

            So tools like the STL Exporter needs to 'include' any such 'hidden' geometry, if those are critical to the Solidity of the exported object......

            TIG

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              Yea, even SketchUp doesn't take into account hidden entities in the solid-test. I guess it's not that common to hide individual faces of a mesh.

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • K Offline
                kjhunter
                last edited by

                Doesn't work. Additionally, documentation is anything but easy step-by-step. Anyway, I got to the point where Extension Warehouse worked. Installed Solid Inspector ok, but nothing showed up in tools. Figured I needed to install the TT_Lib which was also required. I went to do that, and the following came up:

                The requested page "/en/content/tt_lib%25C2%25B2" could not be found.

                System:
                OSX 10.9.2

                Again, the documentation of this "Solid Inspector" is REALLY unclear! πŸ‘Ž

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  It does indeed work fine when installed correctly along with TT_Lib2 as described in the first post of this thread.

                  What do you mean by "Anyway, I got to the point where Extension Warehouse worked"?

                  It sounds as if at least you didn't install TT_Lib2 correctly. How did you go about installing it?

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    @kjhunter said:

                    The requested page "/en/content/tt_lib%25C2%25B2" could not be found.

                    From which link? From within EW? From TT_Lib2's description?

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      @kjhunter said:

                      Again, the documentation of this "Solid Inspector" is REALLY unclear! πŸ‘Ž

                      The description at EW?
                      What did you find unclear?

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • J Offline
                        jimbpoe
                        last edited by

                        Does this plugin work with the free version of Sketchup 2014?
                        Thanks

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          @jimbpoe said:

                          Does this plugin work with the free version of Sketchup 2014?
                          Thanks

                          Yes. What makes you think it wouldn't?

                          Are you using SketchUp 2014? Your profile indicates SketchUp 8. (It works in both anyway.)

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                          • J Offline
                            jimbpoe
                            last edited by

                            Thanks for the quick reply.

                            I thought there was a leak in one of my components because the Cutlist plugin would not print it and because it had no volume. I tried installing Solid Inspector but it did not find any leaks. Once I invoked Solid Inspector, I could not do anything in Sketchup and had to exit the Sketchup application.

                            Eventually I figured out that my component did not display a volume value because I had used a subcomponent within the component. I removed the subcomponent and Cutlist was able to recognize my component.

                            I'm still wondering how you exit Solid Inspector.

                            Thanks,
                            Jim

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              First, the CutList plugin doesn't require components to be solid. But, as you found, the parts you want showing in your cut list must be at the lowest level. Adding some other subcomponent will make the part not be the lowest level and thus not show.

                              As for exiting out of Sold Inspector, select another tool. I usually get the Select tool (hit the Spacebar) since I'll probably want to select something anyway.

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                              • K Offline
                                Kyudos
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                                Could someone please help a newbie out? Solid Inspector tells me something is wrong with the edges of the 'shelf' in this model, but I don't understand what it could be. It all looks 'ok...?


                                What is wrong?

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                                • K Offline
                                  Kyudos
                                  last edited by

                                  Its OK - thanks for looking - but I figured it out! Internal faces! Could SI highlight the face rather than the edge? - that would've given me more of a clue...

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                                  • cottyC Offline
                                    cotty
                                    last edited by

                                    The edge has more than 2 faces, so the highlight is right...

                                    my SketchUp gallery

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                                    • jgbJ Offline
                                      jgb
                                      last edited by

                                      Deleting an edge of a face deletes the face. Highlighting the face would be redundant.


                                      jgb

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        You can delete an edge which then in turn deletes its associated face...
                                        Any 'coplanar' faces using it will survive that edge's deletion, and simply merge together into one bigger face.
                                        BUT if those faces you want to keep are not 'coplanar', then they too will disappear with the edge !

                                        This example shows how an inner face makes a group into a non-solid.
                                        Deleting just the face makes it solid - BUT in this case deleting any of the edges used by that unwanted face would not give the desired result, because other faces we want to retain rely on those edges - the faces are not 'coplanar'.


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                                        • K Offline
                                          Kyudos
                                          last edited by

                                          TIG describes my issue exactly. The first thing I tried was deleting the 'edge', but was frustrated to find that didn't help. I'm not saying that highlighting the edge is wrong - but highlighting the problem face would have been more helpful to a know-nothing-noob like me πŸ˜„

                                          (I actually had to install the Manifold extension and run that for it to tell me what the problem was).

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Once you know it's an internal partition face [via Solid-Inspector]... then you can use a section-plane to cut into the form and let you see inside i [Xray-mode lets you see it, but not select it].

                                            In that way you can easily select just that face problem and press <delete> to remove it.

                                            The form should then be reported as a 'solid'...

                                            If by 'Manifold' you mean my old plugin, then I suggest that my SolidSolver [or several newer tools] might be more appropriate to try to auto-fix these kind of issues... BUT understanding what the problem is and then manually fixing it is often more effective...

                                            TIG

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