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    • EscapeArtistE Offline
      EscapeArtist
      last edited by

      Here's one:mesh.jpg

      I tried all metal textuers in a previous render, but it was too black and white. Red "paint" looks good. Done in Kerky, MLT/BPT 30 passes/30 minutes. Nothing special done as far as environment goes, the model was reduced to 1" in dia, 2 lights used with inverse attenuation plus the sun left in default settings. Infinite ground plane with a semi-matte finish. That's it.

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      • TaffGochT Offline
        TaffGoch
        last edited by

        So, you used chrome, eh?

        In my previous experience, with POV, chrome wouldn't look right, unless there was some thing(s) to reflect. Is this true for Kerkythea? Do I have to provide a "sky" to get chrome to render acceptably?

        Actually, now that I mention it, must I provide "off-stage" objects/emitters for reflections, to produce realistic "shiny" renders by Kerky? (I'm thinking, yes.)


        Secondly, you provided additional lights. Was this to provide "ambient" lighting, or to give something to reflect (as mentioned above) ?

        -Taff

        "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          This is just 6 passes with Twilight ("Easy 10 - interior progressive, unbiased) with three lights and a couple of "reflective" faces around (the so called "basic Twilight studio scene). I will let it cook longer to see how it refines.

          Texture is a "Rainbow metal" from the KT "Metal_Ashknimin_MLT" texture pack.


          geo-test.jpg

          Gai...

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          • TaffGochT Offline
            TaffGoch
            last edited by

            I like the iridescent, mother-of-pearl appearance. I'll have to download that material pack.

            Is the graininess of the image due to the render, or to post-render compression?

            -Taff

            "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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            • EscapeArtistE Offline
              EscapeArtist
              last edited by

              @taffgoch said:

              So, you used chrome, eh?

              No chrome. Anisotropic metal. Wanted a sort of "extruded" look to make it look more like wire instead of some kind of "prefect" material.

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                @taffgoch said:

                Is the graininess of the image due to the render, or to post-render compression?

                That's the render preset. Like MLT and similar in KT, this unbiased preset starts with "noisy" images (that's actually the term in Podium) and clears up gradually (if ever - in case of too little light, it can take quite long)

                Gai...

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                • soloS Offline
                  solo
                  last edited by

                  Let there be light.


                  Geodesic _Weave_Class-III_10v(4,6)[1]2.jpg

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                  • TaffGochT Offline
                    TaffGoch
                    last edited by

                    solo,

                    It's interesting that the "seams" where the multiple "worm" components meet are visible in your render, but not the others (so far.) That's something I was glad not to see in my renderings. So, how come they're in your latest? Was it the material, or some other parameter, I have to wonder?


                    gaieus,

                    Thanks for the DOF link. I've not yet tried that, and it looks VERY promising.

                    [EDIT Wonderful! I played with the DOF mask, and really like the results. The same mask can be used for changing the lighting (fog) and depth-of-field blurring. Just what I needed, for post-processing in Photoshop. Thanks, again, Gai...]

                    -Taff

                    "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Welcome Taff, not as if I would have ever used those techniques myself - just knew about those tuts.
                      πŸ˜„

                      This DOF render is cool however to experiment with the various blending modes of the two layers. This is about 50% with "Glow" mode.


                      geo-test-glow.jpg

                      Gai...

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                      • R Offline
                        Rico91
                        last edited by

                        nice object!

                        Render from hypershot
                        rendertime 1:08 h

                        http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rMc47FEl0fA/TCyF3aa7xiI/AAAAAAAACE4/2kYDRPEUz9g/untitled.11.jpg

                        [img:y90a5vdg]http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rMc47FEl0fA/Sro-DozMGPI/AAAAAAAABwU/zZsLbdpwWAs/forum_onderschrift_r3d_30pxh.jpg[/img:y90a5vdg] [url:y90a5vdg]http://www.R3Design.nl[/url:y90a5vdg]

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          Taffgoch, I overlayed the SU lines (exploded) hence the joins are visible.

                          Another quick play.


                          geometal.jpg


                          taffball.jpg

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          • olisheaO Offline
                            olishea
                            last edited by

                            nice renders here.

                            Gaieus is right, you don't strictly need the smoky glass/fog materials. just use the depth render and play with different blending modes....overlay and multiply can be used to emphasize foreground/darken background. also try inverting your depth render to change what is/isn't in focus etc if you are using it as a depth mask (for DOF)

                            will have a go at this soon hopefully, nice model πŸ‘

                            oli

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                            • daleD Offline
                              dale
                              last edited by

                              Although a little difficult to carve out of Jade, I'm sure there is a Chinese Master carver out there who would be tempted.
                              Thea, IBL,SSS,TR1,1Hr 10 Min


                              Geodesic orb 1.png

                              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                              • TaffGochT Offline
                                TaffGoch
                                last edited by

                                Every good photographer takes advantage of the depth-of-field, for sharp/blur and close/distant distortion. I used to be okay at it, back when I was in college. Your latest renders, solo, really demonstrate the extremes.

                                I just have to get used to the Kerkythea settings. I only wish I had more time to play with KT.

                                Without these effects, the distinction between close and distant elements "gets lost."
                                No DOF adjustments
                                With DOF blurring & darkening, the depth is more apparent:
                                DOF blur & darken

                                -Taff

                                "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                                • TaffGochT Offline
                                  TaffGoch
                                  last edited by

                                  dale,

                                  I was thinking of, eventually, trying a sub-surface-scattering jade render, with a centrally-positioned light-source globe, about half the diameter of the weave.

                                  I've got to go back to the SSS discussion, and experiment some. If someone else is quicker at it than I, it would be most appreciated if you could please share the KT parameters you used.

                                  -Taff

                                  "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                                  • daleD Offline
                                    dale
                                    last edited by

                                    Taff
                                    I was never able to get very good SSS in Kerkythea, and am still just fumbling and experimenting in Thea. I though I could export a file over to Kerkythea and have a look at the base settings, but realized that I have altered everything, and I'm trying a new rendering of your model. (Which is so much fun to play with by the way, Thanks) I'm not exactly sure if that would have worked anyway.
                                    I have seen some really nice SSS work done in Kerkythea though, and I'm sure someone will come forward with some insights.
                                    I'm really enjoying the dof discussion, as it is another area I really don't know much about.
                                    Great challenge.

                                    Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                    • HieruH Offline
                                      Hieru
                                      last edited by

                                      Great model - I imagine we'll see it turn up as an ornament in many interior renders, or even as a piece of garden sculpture.

                                      Here's just a bit of sci-fi fun:


                                      monolith.jpg

                                      www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                      • david_hD Offline
                                        david_h
                                        last edited by

                                        i did one for fun here. Looks like candy.


                                        colored spheres.jpg

                                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                        • R Offline
                                          remon_v
                                          last edited by

                                          Octane render (Geforce 470) 10:01, but I don't see the difference after 5 min.:

                                          http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/remon_v/SU_challange.jpg

                                          I haven't really played with Octane that much yet, but it's fast πŸ˜„

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                                          • R Offline
                                            remon_v
                                            last edited by

                                            I left it for 20:01 min now:

                                            http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/remon_v/SU_challange2.jpg

                                            I do see the difference

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