BP - A hatchet job
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Bob,
I believe I now understand you passionate responses and desire to tie the Bhopal disaster to the spill. We are all biased by our very nature and existence - there is no escape from it. For the record, as stated before - I have no issue with the extradition of Warren Anderson to India to stand trial. And regardless of the current administration's BS response and spin - the amout of the Bhopal victim award is obscenely inappropriate. I doubt there would be even half that amount left to distribute after all of the lawyers are paid. But I won't go any further into the expanding dialog on US - Indian relations as it doesn't (in my opinion) further the discussion of the original topic. Maybe another time or another thread - but I would think we would likely tend to agree more than you might think.
@unknownuser said:
Someone accused me of hypocracy, and then presumed to know the feelings of the people of Bhopal towards the BP payout. This from another article on the 'nuclear deal' between India and America:
To clarify hypocritical reference - it was aimed at your insistence that BP is an international conglomerate as compared your broader America(n(s))references when discussing Union Carbide. I never claimed to or presumed to know the poeple of Bhopal's feelings towards anything - just questioned your previous query wondering if how they felt about Obama's outrage. None of the links made the connection that I could find, other than the one Indian author.
Why should the rest of the world have any sympathy for us - we bring the majority of this on ourselves. While I deserved the turnabout on the “rats behind” reference - I personally feel the Indian people and Bhopal victims should be concerned about the low payout for the Union Carbide disaster. I don’t see any benefit to the continual comparison between the two - it only seems to fuel the perception of the “fairness” trait of the US that some of the quotes you have linked refer to.
I don’t obviously speak for all Americans - but very few that I know of feel anything is fair as it stands now in the big business run political system we live under in the US. That is the reason why I have no issue with BP paying for it’s mess - which is why this whole discussion took off in the first place. If they don’t pay out too much and can escape intact - British pensions (and yes I understand some American pensions as well - but that isn’t why we got here) will remain intact, and my tax dollars will have to finish the job. And I probably deserve that as I use as much petrol (well maybe not since I have downgraded from my SUV a couple of years ago - but you get the point) as the next ugly American.
I do thank you for the many informative links you have posted (prior to this last post) regarding both the Gulf oil spill and Bhopal. I have benefited greatly, and know a lot more now than I did just a week ago. BTW - the term Comical US Media Reaction is redundant!
Regards,
Dean -
CNN posted an interactive 3D model of the disaster site here.
OT: I'm seeing more and more 3D stuff in the media, have you guys noticed this? This CNN model is just a basic model using the Unity engine, but I'm guessing we are going to see more detailed models in the future.
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with pain inside me, i found this today
YouTube - James Fox on the BP Oil Spill - Part I
[flash=480,385:3h5hvmha]http://www.youtube.com/v/-0fLnRpofPg&hl=es_ES&fs=1[/flash:3h5hvmha]YouTube - Alert * 100% TRUE : OIL RAINS , TOXIC RAINS , POISING GASES .
[flash=480,385:3h5hvmha]http://www.youtube.com/v/yY1eWq6A-5E&hl=es_ES&fs=1[/flash:3h5hvmha]watkins, if you feel this video or comments are not appropriate to your thread, let me know
thank you -
YouTube - Todo el Mundo es un Escenario 1_5 MAX IGAN All the World is a Stage ES Subtitles
[flash=480,385:agl3bnij]http://www.youtube.com/v/7LpWJ8W0pAA&hl=es_ES&fs=1[/flash:agl3bnij]What BP, Haliburton, and other co-conspirators intentionally drilled into was an Asphalt Volcano.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=176310
this view could explain it all
cheers -
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We already have the solution to the BRITISH PETROLEUM oil spill. The other night I watched an old episode of StarTrek. The away team had beamed down to a planet where an oil seepage had surrounded them. Strangely the spill seemed to have an intelligence of its own and seemed hostile in that it followed them everywhere. I didn't finish watching, but it occurred to me that if anyone knows how the away team defeated the oil spill they should post it here so we could forward the solution to BP management. If it requires the use of photon torpedoes or phasers on BP's upper echelon so much the better.
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It's the fourth of july. maybe they should just start the whole ocean on fire and the whole country could go down there for a big 4th of July Weenie Roast.
I am sure there are lots of weenies the folks down there wouldn't mind roastin' . .
BP Execs. . .Tim Geitner. . .Obama. . .
JUS kiddin'!!!
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YouTube - COREXIT is Eating Through Boats in the Gulf!
by o0Levitikuz0o
[flash=480,385:1rox5o9l]http://www.youtube.com/v/4AVyw93sf88[/flash:1rox5o9l]
The dispersant is more dangerous/toxic then the oil itself. I doubt someone controls situation in the Gulf.A comment to the video posted on youtube:
@unknownuser said:
Hey!! The dispersant Corexit is much less toxic than VX nerve gas, hydrocyanic acid, botulism toxin, a direct hit from a lightning bolt while standing in a puddle, being ran over by a train, extended submersion in boiling sulfuric acid, being jettisoned naked into deep space, caged with 50 starving lions, drawing a cartoon of Mohammed, quail hunting with Dick Cheney, listening to a speech by Joe Biden, waiting for Barack to save us or current economic theory being practiced by the government.
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@unknownuser said:
":ogwdz9kn]...I am sure there are lots of weenies the folks down there wouldn't mind roastin' . .
BP Execs. . .Tim Geitner. . .Obama. . .JUS kiddin'!!!
the trouble David_H is that it is THE EIGTTHH OF JULY
and the TOXICS are starting to happen
but at the bottom
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/7/bp_oil_spill_cleanup_workers_getting
we should act now -
i was just jokin'. . ..
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@unknownuser said:
**":i0xvh0im]i was just jokin'. . ..
of course i know David_H nothing to be embarrassed
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thanks. . .I was hanging my head in shame.
Well not really.
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the point for me is how can we act ?
mind you i am from Spain and Madrid takes very far from there
There is a website offering radios superbs for if the electricity fails
i mean is there no way to act ?
do you get the news that tells BP controls absolutely everything in the Coast Shitten ?
and does not allow anybody to film or picture or interview ?
OR THAT SCIENTISTS FROM OUTSHORE are not allowed to intervine ?
I can think, well, they must study the facts and do not tell anything untill they know so to not to frighten the society
but i mean, it frightens me from Madrid
are the North American people not so frightened as to ask on TV POLITICIANS directly?
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Juan, BP does not control EVERYTHING on the coast, and we are bombarded on the national news everyday with media coverage of the disaster, including on-site reports. Not to mention the print media, which seems to report one more disaster after another (now the oil is UNDER the sand). Given the size of the story and all the interest by the national and international media (even one of our local stations sent two anchors and a film crew down there to do a report), I'm not surprised access has been somewhat restricted, but reports that BP is controling the whole coast, and people aren't "allowed" to talk or take photographs, is a gross exageration.
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thanks Daniel
i did not know that -
@unknownuser said:
Obama administration has told US oil giant Exxon Mobil Corp and another group, believed to be Chevron, that it would not oppose a bid for BP
Now there's a surprise, isn't it!
Kick, kick and kick BP, crush it's share price then grab it at a cut price. -
I'm pretty sure that BP are happy pay whatever compensation is deemed necessary because they themselves will not actually be paying it. When the full investigation, of how this tragedy happened, is completed, BP will simply reclaim any money they have spent (+damages of course) from those responsible...Transocean, Halliburton!!!
Unless it turns out it was there fault...in which case they're F@*?#d.
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Well not Halliburton, they've just got SO MANY friends in the administration they'll be protected from EVERYTHING!
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BP
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a dark possibility
YouTube - Storm a cover for Gulf false flag? Neuroses of Armegeddon
[flash=480,385:24gc0zcg]http://www.youtube.com/v/Ezh1zTY8RBY&hl=es_ES&fs=1[/flash:24gc0zcg]
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