Modern Residence WIP ( Updated )
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Hi Everybody,
After playing with Vue the last 2 months I think It's time to focus on a new project. Started this model of a modern residence. I like the progress posts here like the one artysmedia is doing now so I wanted to do one too. Hope you don't mind. Here the base of the structure so far. I wil post the next one soon. Love some feeback on the model.
Greetz Twan
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Pugz,
I think it is too early in the design phase to comment really. I think if the windows and doors were in that would help as it would give a better sense of scale.
Looking forward to seeing more.
Scott
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Hi Everybody,
Here's a first test render. the wood texture of the Louvre screens wil be tweaked some more. Rendered in Twilight. Thanx for the reply Scott. Hope this will show more of the design.
Greetz Twan
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Pugz,
There we go! I really like the idea of the louvers but I think for such a large area they should be larger and more of a commercial/industrial feel. I love the feel of the structure though. This should be fun to see come together. I have added some examples of the idea I have.
Nice work so far!
Scott
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All of the 'parts' of a building should be there for a reason - are these louvers necessary ?
If so why are they only on that elevation etc etc...
I like the louvers but...
It's all in danger of not so much looking like a 'modern residence' but looking more like an 'office block' ???
A residence is a home but this has no 'soul' - not even a 'modernist-house soul'...
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@unknownuser said:
A residence is a home but this has no 'soul' - not even a 'modernist-house soul'...
That is a completely opinion based comment.
Scott
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thanx for the comments. The Louvre Doors are there for a reason. the bottom gallery has no windows behind the Louvres so there it's to prevent people falling down
( sorry for the wise comment 
, haha ) and for the top two galleries they are for shading. The are fully slidable so there are many possibilities. I will make a version with more commercial style Louvres just to see if you are right Scott. I don't worry about the soul of the building,I think wthis will come along as I progress further in de model and render. On the ground level there will be a garden. I think this will give the scene It's " Soul ".Greetz Twan
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@unknownuser said:
@unknownuser said:
A residence is a home but this has no 'soul' - not even a 'modernist-house soul'...
That is a completely opinion based comment.
Scott
A 'comment' is always based on 'an opinion' ??????????????
Otherwise it is worthless ????????????In my opinion what has been shown so far is 'soulless'.
In my opinion a 'residence' is a 'home' and should have a 'soul'.
In my opinion currently it doesn't even have a 'modernist' soul...Just my opinion !!!
What's yours ?
[PS: that doesn't mean you shouldn't continue to develop your ideas..............]
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I don't agree with you but I respect your Opinion. No Goldenfrog soap here
. I will continue with this scene and I've no doubt that I can make a scene with a nice soul to it. So maybe I can change your opinion along the way . I was really expecting a comment on my remark about the people falling down haha. Tonight I don't have time to work on the model because my ex and a girlfriend of her are comming over to watch a movie So I'm probably busy. But hope to post new progress soon.Greetz
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TIG,
A comment can be based on many things (facts, information or of course opinions). I guess I was just surprised at a comment about soul when Pugz had said this model was very much in its infancy.
Opinions are likes asses. Everyone has one some are nice, others just stink.
Scott
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My comment was more along the lines that he was concentrating on details like the louvers and a series of intersecting planes and volumes that do not yet show the soul that a 'residence' requires [in my opinion]. I think that perhaps taking more interest in creating 'places', rather than forms, is appropriate for a 'home' - at least in the initial design phases...
It depends where you are starting from... but I feel that when you are designing a 'home' it starts from something other than modernist volumes and planes... those twiddly details like solar-shading can come later - a design is driven by many factors, but surely one of the main ones for a 'home' is 'soul'...
If you can do both at once - well done - but doing one at the detriment of the other will make it harder to 'inject' some soul back in later...
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TIG,
Well said and I understand you point (opinion). It is much like when we design cars. You can design a fast looking car from the initial sketches, but the minute you start to pull content out to save money the car losses its original soul as a sports car and now only becomes a form of transportation and not a piece of art. Oh crap....I just said "car" and "art" in the same sentence.....Pete is going to jump in at any moment!
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Another way to look at it...
Have the big idea and then water it down later - that's easy...
Don't have an average idea and try to build it up later - that's all but impossible...
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AND more costly later!
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@unknownuser said:
Have the big idea and then water it down later - that's easy
That's a process without soul.
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Go crazy with concept and let clients budget reel you in.
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@toxicvoxel said:
@unknownuser said:
Have the big idea and then water it down later - that's easy
That's a process without soul.
You can't sell your soul if you haven't got it on the first place...
Watering down 'your big idea' is what most architectural design is about - there's not just you in the equation, there are dozens of people with opinions that will influence what gets realized - the client and the accountant being just two !
If you start at the top of the hill expecting to end up a little way down it you might just make it - there'll be lots of people trying to drag you down [even your own inner demons], but at least you have the high ground.
If you start part way up the hill hoping to end up nearer the top then you have your work cut out - the same people will still be trying to drag you down even further, or at least they won't be very interested in helping you up the slope !!
So put some 'soul' in now, adding 'soul' later will require a miracle -
@unknownuser said:
You can't sell your soul if you haven't got it on the first place...
Care to explain?
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@toxicvoxel said:
@unknownuser said:
You can't sell your soul if you haven't got it on the first place...
Care to explain?
If you* present a scheme that has no 'soul' then you are hardly selling 'your soul' - in the sense of selling out your fine principles merely for money... A scheme presented without evidence of much 'soul' might be construed to show the lack of equivalent properties in its originator ?
So what is wrong with presenting the very best scheme you can [and thereby hopefully showing lots of 'soul' in it], but having a reasonable [and quite realistic] expectation that it will in some ways become compromised by others during the very complex process of realizing a building ?
Surely that is preferable to presenting something that's mediocre in the forlorn hope that you might somehow be able to improve it later...
Alternatively presenting the very best scheme and then 'throwing a wobbler' when someone wants to change something is not going to win friends, influence people or get you future commissions... Most designers in the 'real world' rely on someone else to fund and then more 'others' to realize their ideas for them - a pragmatic approach to design that expects some compromises during the process, is the only way to work without getting an early ulcer... BUT compromise from a position of strength not one of weakness...[*here I use the word 'you' to mean 'one' and no one person in particular]
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Sorry Tig, still not sure how that follows on from my comment.
Anyway it's a shame that you shut the bloke down before he had even started, and I think some of the comments in the explanation reveals a little bit of intellectual pompousness on your part. Give the bloke some space, at an age of twenty seven he is still working out the process for himself. If he is starting from a different place than you would, then let him follow that path and make his own adjustments when he reviews the results at the end of the process.
(Show some soul.)It would be great to have more 'process' oriented threads instead of just final presentations, so lets not discourage it in this way.
What I would suggest before you log into the forum in the morning (and this applies to most of the moderators),
is say "Sketchucation, the friendly place for all your Sketchup needs." three times before reading any threads.
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