Float toolbar on creation?

thomthom

hmm... the Info.plist file in the Sketchup application package does not contain the same info we see in the Windows registry...

Jim

I can't seem to get a handle on the Large Tool Set to hide it, any ideas?

i.e. these don't work:

UI.set_toolbar_visible("Large Tool Set", false) UI.set_toolbar_visible("LargeToolSet", false)

thomthom

@jim said:

I can't seem to get a handle on the Large Tool Set to hide it, any ideas?

i.e. these don't work:

UI.set_toolbar_visible("Large Tool Set", false) UI.set_toolbar_visible("LargeToolSet", false)

Yea - it's untouchable.

UI.toolbar_names
["Standard", "Principle", "Camera", "Drawing", "Edit", "Construction", "Walk", "DisplayMode", "StandardViews", "Section", "Google", "GettingStarted", "VCB"]
That's the only ones we can get. And this is on PC. On Mac it's two completely different names.

thomthom

I've managed to get a list of Ruby created toolbars on PC.

But on Mac I got some problems.
I found a plist at /Users/<user>/Library/Preferences/

One com.google.sketchupfree.plist and one com.google.sketchupfree7.plist

What I'm not sure how to is:

find the current user so I know the path to the plist
the name of the plist - which I think is related to the application id. http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/UserPreferences.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20002092 Need a way to get the application’s bundle identifier for the Sketchup version the script is running in.
the toolbar names I get from these files doesn't seem to be 100% complete. think they might only appear if they've been shown at some point.

chrisjk

@thomthom said:

I've managed to get a list of Ruby created toolbars on PC.

But on Mac I got some problems.
I found a plist at /Users/<user>/Library/Preferences/

One com.google.sketchupfree.plist and one com.google.sketchupfree7.plist

What I'm not sure how to is:

find the current user so I know the path to the plist

the name of the plist - which I think is related to the application id. http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/UserPreferences.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20002092 Need a way to get the application’s bundle identifier for the Sketchup version the script is running in.

the toolbar names I get from these files doesn't seem to be 100% complete. think they might only appear if they've been shown at some point.

I suspect the com.google.sketchupfree7.plist refers to a later install and that you can delete the other (maybe from a SU6 install?) without problems - just rename it temporarily and try .

I only have com.google.sketchuppro7.plist; com.google.sketchuppro7.LSSharedFileList.plist; com.google.LayOut.plist; com.google.LayOut.LSSharedFileList.plist; com.google.style_builder.plist

All clearly related to my SU 7 pro installation

wind-borne

thomthom

@chrisjk said:

I suspect the com.google.sketchupfree7.plist refers to a later install and that you can delete the other (maybe from a SU6 install?) without problems - just rename it temporarily and try .

Yes - I have SU6 and SU7 installed.

The thing is - I need a way to determine the filename of the preference file for the Sketchup version the script is running under.

From this link: http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/UserPreferences.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20002092

@unknownuser said:

The name of each file in Library/Preferences is comprised of the application’s bundle identifier followed by the .plist extension. For example, the bundle identifier for the TextEdit application is com.apple.TextEdit so its preferences file name is com.apple.TextEdit.plist.

But I have no idea of how to obtain the bundle identifier...

thomthom

Found the username in the ENV array. Still need to get the bundle ID.

thomthom

Ok - made some progress. Got code working on both Windows and OSX 10.4 (SU7.1). Other systems and versions untested.

Note that there are still issues. This code needs to be tested more.

On Windows it require registry.rb and Win32API from a normal ruby installation. Not sure how to bundle this - in terms of license and general practicability.
On OSX it appears that toolbar names only appears in the plist if it has previously been shown at some point. If it hasn't then there isn't any trace of it. Looking for other source for the names.
I'm not familiar with how to get OSX data - so it's a bit of hacky brute force approach. Might be a better method to get the data. Certainly needs testing.

Work In Progress

thomthom

The Win version will list old toolbar names - toolbars that are no longer present, but still got remains in the registry.

Was thinking of running a loop testing against UI.toolbar - but it will create a new toolbar if given the name of a non-existent toolbar. Acts like UI::Toolbar.new.

thomthom

For Windows - I'm wondering if it'd be an option to use the Win32 API to read the menu items from the Toolbar menu...

thomthom

A new Windows solution. It uses the Win32 API to read the menu items under View->Toolbars. This should allow the list returned to be up to date at any point - even after new toolbars has been created. And it won't list old names.

Only thing is that I'm not sure how to get the SU window handle...

Wonder if similar can be done under OSX...

New Windows Solution

Jim

What I was thinking (somebody stop me) was hiding all toolbars before creating the new toolbar. Then the user can un-dock it. Finally, unhide all the hidden toolbars. But it's a terrible hack.

thomthom

Does that avoid the shifting of toolbars? It seems to be that the toolbars shift when the Toolbar object is created - even before the toolbar is ever shown.

xrok1

have you guys considered making a dialog window the first time a new plug runs that asks if you would like to run the plug (after all the existing toolbars are loaded) then insert the new toolbar. that way the old toolbars will be in place already, avoiding the startup scramble? (if its possible?)

thomthom

That won't avoid the scramble either. Even if you add toolbars after all the other ones are added it still inserts itself randomly between toolbars.

Selection Toys has a function where the user has to enable to toolbar before it can be accessible. Doesn't prevent the mess though.

Jim

So to sum-up this thread, the API methods for managing Toolbars is either broken or lacks functionality in order to be effective?

thomthom

It sure is a mess. It does seem it's possible to enumerate the Ruby toolbar names.
But if the purpose is to prevent toolbars shifting about - then it's a fail.

xrok1

does anyone even know how they organise themslves when they jumble? is it alphabetically, native tools first...?
would it be exactly the same if you had 2 computers with same layout then installed same new plug?

thomthom

I've not been able to notice any patterns.