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    • StinkieS Offline
      Stinkie
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      Hmm ... if I look at it strict theoretically, then I'd have to say 'no'. However, if someone would call, say, the Citroรซn DS a work of art, I'd feel compelled to agree.

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      • Rich O BrienR Online
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        For me the Bugatti Veyron is a modern work of art. The absolute pinnacle of engineering mixed with style,art and flair.

        Don't think it'll be surpassed. Sure someone will make a more powerful or faster road car, but will anyone package it all in such a defining way.

        It deserves to be recognised as Art and those involved given credit for such astounding design.

        On my bucket list before I die is to drive a Veyron, but this I know is unattainable ๐Ÿ˜ž

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
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          The original car that was labeled a 'piece of art' was the Duesenberg, spawning the popular saying "what a doozy".

          http://www.carpages.co.uk/news/news-images/duesenberg_model_j_convertible_coupe-27_05_06.jpg

          I'd agree that it is a piece of art, as it really does not have a function in these times besides being in a showroom for paying customers to admire, similar to a piece of art hanging on a wall on exhibition.

          http://www.solos-art.com

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
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            Hispano Suiza : detail can be Art ๐Ÿ˜‰

            http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/335564/L'oiseau-copie-net.jpg

            http://northstargallery.com/CARS/aaaa54web.jpg

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            • DanielD Offline
              Daniel
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              Can an automobile be art? Yes. Art does not have to have the sole function of "art." Any man-made endeavor which transcends the sum of its parts is art and evokes an emotional response, whether it be a car, architecture, or a painting, is art. Of course, in all things artistic, it's in the eye of the beholder.

              My avatar is an anachronism.

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              • olisheaO Offline
                olishea
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                as long as its not functional it can be coined 'art'.

                strictly speaking:

                as soon as you use it; it loses art status.

                oli

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                • honoluludesktopH Offline
                  honoluludesktop
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                  How about the engine builder? He's not required to polish the top of a block, but he may, out of response to his sense of "art". A lot of parts of a car, its upholstery, rims, lights, the paint job, etc., etc. are canvases for some artist.

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
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                    Maybe this?

                    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gTJMEP-c2fo/SHSof7e-d6I/AAAAAAAABRU/g8524aooDBE/s400/car_art_36.jpg

                    http://www.solos-art.com

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
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                      @olishea said:

                      as long as its not functional it can be coined 'art'.

                      strictly speaking:

                      as soon as you use it; it loses art status.

                      How about architecture then? Only useless (non-usable) buildings can be "art"?

                      Gai...

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                      • soloS Offline
                        solo
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                        ooooh!!

                        now you gonna start a war. ๐Ÿ’š

                        Here is my contribution.. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        http://bonniesamueldesigns.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/painted-houuse.jpg

                        http://www.solos-art.com

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                        • david_hD Offline
                          david_h
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                          Of course a car can be art. In fact, wasn't the Land Rover/ Range Rover installed in the British Museum of Art as a art/design/engineering Masterpiece? It wears the queen's badge does it not? I also agree about the Doozy.

                          My ideas of Cars that could be considered ART
                          Jaguar XKE --beautiful elegant lines and curves. Defines Sexy!
                          XKE.jpg

                          1936 Hispano-suiza. . .Declared by many to be the most beautiful car ever built.

                          Hispano-Suiza_J12_Front-view.JPG

                          The Volkswagen Beetle --iconic This is a 1953 Split rear window.


                          53 split.jpg

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                          • soloS Offline
                            solo
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                            Again I must insist....

                            "a car could never be art, because for something to be art, it can have no purpose other than itself".

                            http://www.solos-art.com

                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              That's nonsense, Pete. Why would the two things exclude each other?

                              Gai...

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                              • david_hD Offline
                                david_h
                                last edited by

                                Oh . ..I picked em cuz I just thought they were beautiful . . .to me. . that's art. . .. and besides. . .

                                Who died and made you Robert Hughes? ๐Ÿ’š

                                If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  IMO anything ("man-made") that pleases the eye (ear, taste, smell...) be it useful or useless (otherwise) can be considered art.

                                  Just look at Arts & Crafts or Art Deco - that's exactly the point they started. No-one tells me a beautiful Art Nouveau furniture cannot be considered art just because you can sit on it!

                                  http://carpentersworkshopgallery.com/diaporama/498.jpg

                                  Gai...

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                                  • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                    honoluludesktop
                                    last edited by

                                    If the question is "anything" art, then NO, not all things are art. Somethings are enclusively art, while others, that may have some function, can also be art.
                                    http://www.bmwdrives.com/gallery/BMWartcars/calder/3.0CSL_calder_1.jpg

                                    1975 BMW 3.0 CSL by Alexander Calder

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      Well, if I keep myself to my own definition that "anything that pleases the eye", to me at least, those BMW's are not too artistic. But then its a millennia old discussion what art is actually and whether it is always subjective or there is a kind of Platonic idea according to which there are art pieces that are definitely art even without critics stating it. ๐Ÿ˜†

                                      Gai...

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                                      • soloS Offline
                                        solo
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                                        I was hoping to avoid a "what is art" discussion, as it's proven to be a pointless debate.

                                        However I was more looking for a what is NOT art, but I guess if the answer is "it looks pretty so it's art" then there really cannot be a debate or discussion.

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

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                                        • DanielD Offline
                                          Daniel
                                          last edited by

                                          I don't think you can ask if something is art and avoid the what-is-art question.
                                          Art is often in the eye of the beholder - what is one man's metal sculpture is another man's pile of scrap metal.

                                          My avatar is an anachronism.

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                                          • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                            honoluludesktop
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                                            Hi Gai, Guess you had to be there. Calder's work is like that. The first time I saw one of his stables exhibited along with some sketches, I was struck how poorly photographs conveyed their beauty. However I did post the car "sight unseen".

                                            http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;lnizWqr0oVMvhM;http://www.wyldeart.com/Galleries

                                            Don't know if art must be beautiful;

                                            http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_r0IkIWe8gKs/SFc3IyWF5LI/AAAAAAAAAI0/i6ygFVRwozs/s400/SJP2.jpg

                                            is a beautiful couple "Art"?

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