Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
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Please check this video, which presents scientific analysis of a collapse of all three towers.
There are architects and engineers who find official story, negating a presence of explosives in the buildings, completely unacceptable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbtmshpFGgw
The detailed information can be found on http://www.ae911truth.org/ -
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Hi Tomasz,
I am not so sure now about that web. Money helping always takes me out.
Still, things may work like that.
what do you think ?Cheers.
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Watched the 6 videos. Okay, there are some question marks there still. Check out this, Conspiracists misrepresent WTC 7's condition
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/conspiracistsmisrepresentwtc7'scondition
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Its a tragedy that in the US there has not one elected person, from either party, or senator, that has stood up to speak about 911 and the subsequent war. In Britain they have at least one..... GEORGE GALLOWAY!
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Olly wrote:
@unknownuser said:
the first ever steel framed buildings to collapse due to fire. (don't forget world trade centre 7 that mysteriously collapsed)
the first ever plane wreckage to disintegrate and "vaporize".
the first ever plane crash to have no bodies or blood.
bullshit.
You think the report or the incident is bullshit?
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the incident.
sorry if my comments are crude.
I just do not believe it. too convenient.
the 'hijackers' took over planes with pen knives? and the passengers just sat there and let it happen? bullshit.
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the first ever steel framed buildings to collapse due to fire. (don't forget world trade centre 7 that mysteriously collapsed as well)
the first ever plane wreckage to disintegrate and "vaporize".
the first ever plane wreckage to have no bodies or blood.
bullshit.
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Will we ever know the truth?
Most importantly what would happen if indeed this is the truth and the whole "war on terror" "axis of evil" is a lie?
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that question is going to be asked for the next 100 years
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my first gut reaction when i heard about 9/11 was that the Americans did it themselves (way too perfect, on many levels)and it still is. it just suites there needs too well.
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Oli, how many skyscrapers have had planes crash in to them? i havent done an exhaustive search but im guessing its in single figures. Could have been a factor in the fact they fell down, could have been a factor in the fact there wasnt a lot of wreckage and could have been a factor in the lack of bodies. Just speculating of course.
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no offense BTW, when i say Americans i of course mean the American government not the American people.
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Popular Mechanics has debunked these insane 9/11 conspiracies. I suggest all you "truthers" read the report and then try to get a life. I can't believe that so many people can be so weak minded.
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@unknownuser said:
I can't believe that so many people can be so weak minded.
Just accepting what you are told on TV is weak minded, questioning what you are told is not weak minded.
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This applies well here,
"They professed themselves to be wise, even as they became fools..."
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David, I assume you swollowed the whole WMD show and tell by Bush, Rumsveld and Powell as fact also?
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The first ever steel frame buildings to collapse due to fire?
1967 original heavy steel constructed McCormick Place exhibition center collapsed only 30 minutes after the start of a small electrical fire.
1997 Sight and Sound Theatre, with a steel rigid frame, collapsed due to fire.
1997 three 4-story buildings at the Kader Toy Factory in Singapore caught fire and collapsed under two hours.
Structural steel loses about 50% of its strength at 1000 degrees F. Around 1850 degrees it's down to 10 percent. Jet fuel burns at 800-1500 degrees F.
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Feel this is like a Déjà vu...
Although I can't seem to find it any more, I recall we had a similar thread a year ago...
I recall that in particular Coen was very active in that particular discussion...@solo said:
Just accepting what you are told on TV is weak minded, questioning what you are told is not weak minded.
I agree that it's good to questioning things, but trying to argue (I'm not pointing my finger at you, Pete) with things that aren't checked nor true is hillarious...
Take the example:
@unknownuser said:
the first ever steel framed buildings to collapse due to fire.
That's just NOT correct...!!
Several steel framed buildings have collapsed... Now that's a fact...! -
Please correct me if any of the following is wrong -
As I understand it the building was steel framed with most of the main support steel being clad with gypsum wallboard. Other steelwork was protected by spray on coatings.
In the event of a 'conventional' fire I can imagine this being an effective heat protection to the steelwork. But when being impacted with a passenger aircraft full of fuel (do we at least agree that loaded aircraft flew into the towers) I can quite imagine the wallboard and sprayed on coating being blown away. Steel at elevated temperature isn't very strong so without protection it would soon have started to buckle and collapse.Maybe things would have been different if the steel had been given intumescent coatings as fire protection.
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