Help Me Draw A Dome [TUTORIAL]

D0me

Hi Gai

If we did the outside with the same technique, it could be without that flat face. (If you have a backup copy of the previous version, save it somewhere and we can go along that way, too). But we will also need to texture the whole thing. I'll look some good, similar examples up if you wish.

No Need to change the course of action at this time. What I would do is when i am doing the exam, I would make this change at this stage. I will need your help though at that time.

For now I think we continue as is.

Gaieus

How about now acting completely on your own?

The task would be to

enter the tunnel group (i.e. edit it),
select all by triple clicking,
intersect the selection with the model and
clean up the mess.
Nothing that we haven't done so far - even with much more complex geometry.

I am pretty sure you could do it but of course, if you need help in the course of the steps, I will chime in.

One thing only - there is that little piece we copied and pasted in place. It only covers half of the surface needed - don't worry about that, we can deal with it later.

D0me

Wow feels good to actually do it alone eventhough it was a small step and all thanks to you. Im sure these little small steps will lead up to larger ones.

I have attached a Jpeg image of what I have now as well as the SKP for inspection to see if I am on track.

Learning--Unique-flipped.skp

Gaieus

Well, those little pieces are easy to get rid - and yes, that other part is what we pasted in there however you managed to loose the whole inside of the tunnel! What happened there?

D0me

Hi Gai

@unknownuser said:

However you managed to loose the whole inside of the tunnel! What happened there?

I really done know what happened here. It seems I may have removed it in error and I didn't even realise my mistake. Sorry for that. Is there any way to recover this?

If not I have downloaded the version I uploaded in the following post. http://forums.sketchucation.com/posting.php?mode=reply&f=79&t=24930&sid=5acadaddbf65b132aad43f66c186234d#pr215930
I'm going to retry this. Will have it back to you in a few minutes for inspection,

Gaieus

You can always undo unwanted changes (even after a save) but only until you close SU - so not in this case.

It could be "hand stitched" back but with a 24 segment arc, redoing the whole thing seems to be more straightforward.

D0me

Hi Gai

I'm having a totaly blank moment right now.
I've reopened the model before making my mess up and looked for areas to clean up but I don't know where.

So I've done the following

Double clicked tunnel to edit the group
Tripple clicked it there after to get into the geomatary.
Right clicked and selected intersect with model
ctrl+H to hide rest of model
Right click on the smaller arch of the opening and deleted it. ( Something dosent feel right with this step)

Please may I ask for some direction.

Thanks

Learning--Unique-flipped--Before Removing Entire Tunnel.skp

Gaieus

Damn, you are right!

What an idiot I am! We removed those parts of the domes that should now intersect the inner surface of the tunnel! And I leave you alone with the job at this stupid mistake of mine - no wonder you cannot make it!

Sorry - I will post a corrected version soon.

OK, so the case is that when we have intersected the dome pieces, we should have intersected the tunnel as well before we start cleaning up by deleting the unnecessary parts of the dome pieces.

Now I went back a couple of steps, did both intersections and cleaned up the dome pieces but also left that part which is covered by the tunnel's thickness in (we'll do some magic with those later).

So now the tunnel is intersected already properly and you can try if you can clean this version up without any problem.

Sorry again for the hassle - it seems that I was rather pompous and big-headed when suggested you to always think ahead.

Learning--Fixed.skp

D0me

Hi Gai
No problem. I will try now to clean.

D0me

Hi Gai

I've completed the cleanup. I hope I didn't take away something that was supposed to be there.

Thanks
Regards
D0me

Learning--Fixed.skp

Gaieus

Well, it seems to me that you did not delete what should have been deleted but really "cleaned up" the model only - deleting the intersection lines.

I coloured whatever needs to be deleted red (note that there are also red edges)

And the end result should look something like this

(Don't worry with Z fighting now)

Learning--Fixed.skp

D0me

Hi Gai
I have been a terrible student.
You leave me with a small task and I screw things up. Really sorry for that.

I've uploaded the latest one.

Thanks for being patient with me.

Regards
D0me

Learning--Fixed--Latest.skp

Gaieus

Okay, nice job.

Now open this file and see what's new in there (look at the top left of the model window).

Learning--Fixed--Latest.skp

D0me

Cool. Didn't expect that.
Atleast now I can have the option of having the opening with the lip or without.

Just one thing I noticed and I may be wrong as I may have used the dimension tool incorrectly.
The opening needed to be 9 Inches high. If you look at the Image I have attached, it is only 6 Inches high. Have I measured correctl?

Thanks
Regards
D0me

Gaieus

Well, you measured correct but remember that we had a 3" thickness for the whole opening and 9-3=6.

So what now? Redo? We can - it's already easy now - or we can progress with the model as it is now and you can change it when you redo the whole thing to practise (I - or anyone else I believe - will be here in case you get stuck in any case)

D0me

Hi Gai

@unknownuser said:

you can change it when you redo the whole thing to practise

Thats perfect.

The model actually seems complete to me. Really curious to see whats next.

Thanks
Regards
D0me

Gaieus

That base part you mentioned somewhere above? Texturing? Putting some elements on hidden layers (according to what and when we want to display - just open your layers dialog from the window menu and see what and how changes when you change the scene tabs!)

Making sections and printing to scale? There are so many things you can do with a ready model - presentation, printed material... Exporting the whole model to a 3D PDF document so that anyone can see, rotate and such...

But of course, practising the modelling part is always the first step (otherwise you do not have anything to present)

D0me

@unknownuser said:

That base part you mentioned somewhere above? Texturing? Putting some elements on hidden layers (according to what and when we want to display - just open your layers dialog from the window menu and see what and how changes when you change the scene tabs!)

Making sections and printing to scale? There are so many things you can do with a ready model - presentation, printed material... Exporting the whole model to a 3D PDF document so that anyone can see, rotate and such...

Yes, the base. Also everything else you mentioned sounds interesting and challenging and has my curiosity levels running high. SU is powerfull might I say. Really looking forward to this.

@unknownuser said:

But of course, practising the modelling part is always the first step (otherwise you do not have anything to present)

100% true. You can't run before you walk.

So I guess we can start with the base.
I'm gonna sit and think about how I want the base in terms of dimensions.

Will have something for you by tomorrow.

Take care
Regards
D0me

Gaieus

Okay, looking forward to it!

D0me

Hi Gai
I hope you are well.

I have thought long and hard, putting myself in every practical situation to try and derive a dimension for the stand and I think I have it.

The stands width and depth needs to be such that the dome will sit on it and leave a 1 inch spacing on the back and 2 sides. The front/opening needs to have a 2 inch spacing. The height of the stand will be +- 1 Metre. The stand will be fabricated from metal.

Please improvise wherever you feel the need.

Regards
D0me