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    • michaliszissiouM Offline
      michaliszissiou
      last edited by michaliszissiou

      This is just a test. House, quick modeled in SU. Exported to blender, textured (displacements) and rendered in blender v2.5 internal renderer (~1 min). Tested some blender trees too. Small quick PP with toycamera analogcolor.


      treesTest2.jpg


      treesTest2BW.jpg

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      • david57D Offline
        david57
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        Nice. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

        One Minute? Thats a long time. ๐Ÿ˜„

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        • G Offline
          GoldenFrog
          last edited by

          Nice job!! Idk how you export su files to blender...But nice render. And Idk how to render in blender LOL. ๐Ÿคฃ guess I'm only good at su. ๐Ÿ’š ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

          Remember, great minds think alike, and fools never differ.

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            nomeradona
            last edited by

            another excellent workflow being explored by the "explorer master" ๐Ÿ‘

            visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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            • majidM Offline
              majid
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              great render from a master ๐Ÿ˜„ , and also many thanx to blender!!!! such a great free app ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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              • massimoM Offline
                massimo Moderator
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                Nice one ๐Ÿ‘ . I like your desaturated colours.

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                • michaliszissiouM Offline
                  michaliszissiou
                  last edited by

                  Thanks, its just a test anyway.
                  SU model exported via SUpro obj exporter (collada blender importer leads to a complete useless mess). I had first to 'explode' components and turn them to groups. I had to check that faces look outside (white color, not blue). After imported to blender, had to select all vertices and remove some doubles. Triangles to quads (this makes UV unwrap and displacements simpler). All these were one click operations. Now I was ready to texture and render in blender. Some more tips. When building windows in SU, its better to avoid all this push-pull, just do the openings and keep the rest stuff as a separate group, makes texturing easier, produces better topology too.
                  To render in blender means a lot of clicks, lots of material properties, lot of experimentation. What do you expect? Its an advanced renderer. (more than kerkythea). If asking for a friendlier renderer then... well, podium is my favorite. ๐Ÿ˜„

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                  • EarthMoverE Offline
                    EarthMover
                    last edited by

                    @michaliszissiou said:

                    If asking for a friendlier renderer then... well, podium is my favorite. ๐Ÿ˜„

                    I'm surprised that's not their slogan.
                    Podium - The Friendlier Renderer.

                    Seriously, thank you Michalis for your contributions and ideas. I have 3ds Max and Modo, but have been slowly exploring Blender. I'd love to get away from the upgrade money pit that is most paid apps these days.

                    3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                    Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
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                    • S Offline
                      sepo
                      last edited by

                      Haha....The Friendlier Renderer....we might adopt it.

                      It seems I will have to start exploring this Blender as well.

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                      • F Offline
                        Fletch
                        last edited by

                        @michaliszissiou said:

                        rendered in blender v2.5 internal renderer (~1 min).

                        lovely! beautiful light and shadow!

                        michaliszissiou, what resolution was this rendering? what machine/processors/processor speed?

                        Fletch
                        Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                        • michaliszissiouM Offline
                          michaliszissiou
                          last edited by

                          @fletch said:

                          what resolution was this rendering? what machine/processors/processor speed?

                          Thanks Adam, Sid, Fletch. Rendered at 1680x1060, blender v2.5 64bit on a mac (two xeon-nehalem, quad cores 16 threads at 2.26 Ghz). But could take 5 or 10 or 20 min, so many variations. I could say that ~1min on v2.5 or ~5min on v2.49b. What made this fast is that avoided radiosity solution using just a sun and three emitters. Blender aims at animation, so its fast.

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Cool quiet images โ˜€

                            The collada exporter from SU free seems don't work with the Blender Collada Importer
                            But seems work when you export from SU free in KMZ (rename in .Zip, unzip = DAE) then import in Blender ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • michaliszissiouM Offline
                              michaliszissiou
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              The collada exporter from SU free seems don't work with the Blender Collada Importer
                              But seems work when you export from SU in KMZ (rename in .Zip, unzip = DAE) then import in Blender

                              Thanks Pilou, but DAE in KMZ is identical to DAE export. A mess. Practically useless!! Its collada blender importer or a SU problem, or I'm doing something wrong. ๐Ÿ˜†

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Its collada blender importer or a SU problem

                                Probably both, but it's the only thing that I can do now from the free Su for export an object directly inside the Blender 2.5 Alpha 0 ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                  EscapeArtist
                                  last edited by

                                  @michaliszissiou said:

                                  Thanks Pilou, but DAE in KMZ is identical to DAE export. A mess. Practically useless!! Its collada blender importer or a SU problem, or I'm doing something wrong. ๐Ÿ˜†

                                  I'll second that SU DAE to Blender Collada import stinks, I exported a building and it's gigantic mess of triangulated faces and half reversed normals. On any serious model you'll spend longer fixing normals and cleaning up faces than you ever did modeling it.

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                                  • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                    michaliszissiou
                                    last edited by

                                    "exported a building and it's gigantic mess of triangulated faces and half reversed normals"

                                    Exactly so. Maybe we should forget texturing in SU. Anyway UV texturing is superb in blender. Maybe this 'importing SU models to blender' operation is a waste of time. Maybe... ๐Ÿ˜’

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                                    • C Offline
                                      Camara
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi,
                                      It's nice to see another user of a SU/Blender workflow. I love the two programs and they make my life more easy.
                                      SU is great for modeling architecture but Blender as more advance tools for modeling organic forms,texturing and render.
                                      My workflow is:
                                      I use SU free for modeling from the CAD files and do texturing, then use the Kerkythea exporter, then I have a Kerkythea XML file and the textures folder.
                                      Then use the wonderful Nicetuna converter from the Kerkythea format into OBJ, it can be found here: http://www.nicetuna.com/kt2obj
                                      Then import into Blender the OBJ file,be sure that the file are in the same folder that the textures and in the import options check the image search for Blender find them, and separate OBJ by Object/Group/Material. And Voilรก.
                                      The import is perfect.
                                      In Blender you just need to delete duplicate vertices and transform tri faces into quads,that are very simple commands.

                                      Then one can export back to Kerky for render or use another render engine available for Blender like Yafaray, Luxrender or VRay.
                                      This is how I do it. Hope someone finds this information useful.

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                                      • EarthMoverE Offline
                                        EarthMover
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks Camara. Interesting workflow. I am going to give that a shot.

                                        EDIT - Gave it a shot and it works great in 2.49. I can't seem to import .obj into 2.5 alpha. Anyone else have this problem? BTW - the KT .xml to .obl workflow also works great for going from SU to Modo.

                                        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                        Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                        • david57D Offline
                                          david57
                                          last edited by

                                          ๐Ÿ‘

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            I can't seem to import .obj into 2.5

                                            OBJ importer of the 2.5 Alpha 0 is bugged!
                                            With some people that works 1/2, for other = 0

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            I use SU free for modeling from the CAD files and do texturing, then use the Kerkythea exporter, then I have a Kerkythea XML file and the textures folder.

                                            Ok cool trick โ˜€ but it's not a direct workflow SU free to Blender (that was my problematic for the moment) ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                            (during the bugging time time of the Alpha 0)

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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