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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Hi Z-Akh and welcome with these nice models!

      As for Vitruvius, I find that his proportions are often just an idealised "average" of what should be built but individual buildings (especially in the provinces) are only more or less following those "ideas" rather tan strictly following them as true canons (and then there is also the time span of several hundred years during which many things changed).

      Nevertheless, theoretically speaking, SketchUp is indeed an ideal tool to study these canons and see how they would work in practice.

      Gai...

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        ELYSIUM
        last edited by

        I agree with Gaieus.

        Forget about Vitruvius!! lolol the ten books are greatly overrated. ๐Ÿ˜†

        Its a great source for understanding ideal roman architecture, but it has a lot of trouble when applied to real life and real buildings
        The books are really poorly written, Greek mixed with Latin, invented words, missing parts, no mention of engaged columns and orders..... some buildings described are impossible to build because he sets contradictory rules and proportions, the list of mistakes goes on and on...,
        And like Gaieus pointed out the books were written in the start of Augustus reign, the empire lasted for 400 years after that!

        Its really hard to find a roman building that fits in Vitruvius understanding of rules and proportions. Like for example the Panteon! does it fit Vitruvius? no way...
        The Ten Books are just a set of principles for ideal architecture, donยดt try and fit everything in it. ๐Ÿ˜„

        Post Scriptum: Great images, can you show us more???

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        • Z Offline
          Z-Akh69
          last edited by

          I agree with you. Vitruvius should be used to understand some basic principles.

          For example, for values of intercolumniation: Vitruvius gives us values such as 1.5 d (diameter) for Pycnostyle or 2 d for Systyle.

          The architect is free to choose the value which is more harmonious. It can also make an average. This applies to the "square house" of the city of Nimes in France : The values of intercolumniation is an average between Pycnostyle and Systyle.

          For column, I am guided by Vitruvius because Vignola's corinthian column seems disproportionate.
          The capital is too high and the base too narrow. The height proposed by Vignola is also too high. (Vitruvius also said that for Pycnostyle the height of the column should be 10 d, it is also impossible).

          I'll post more images later. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          • Z Offline
            Z-Akh69
            last edited by

            I tried to render L.VII.C's model with Twilight render.

            Even without good proportions, is already beautiful!

            http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3725/97032611.jpg

            http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4551/64398806.jpg

            http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9383/98337712.jpg

            ๐Ÿ˜„

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            • L Offline
              L.VII.C
              last edited by

              Hi Z-Akh69

              Your models are great ๐Ÿ‘ . It would be interesting to examine them in 3D mode.
              Thank you very much for rendering my forum. So it looks better than it is really ๐Ÿ˜„

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                Aerilius
                last edited by

                great render!
                (@L.VII.C:) The light blots on the base of the column and below the statue on the left could be caused by either totally white (rgb=255,255,255) or untextured faces. Also make sure that the faces show the frontface (in monochrome face style, the blueish color means the backface and white means frontface). I also struggled with this in one of my monastery renders but I'm sure it can be solved ๐Ÿ˜‰ .

                I keep my eyes open, because the last thing we need are people. Plebeians and patricians, Cicero and senators... Maybe there are some good movies in tv these days, where I can catch some people...

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                • L Offline
                  L.VII.C
                  last edited by

                  Aerilius

                  @unknownuser said:

                  great render!
                  (@L.VII.C:) The light blots on the base of the column and below the statue on the left could be caused by either totally white (rgb=255,255,255) or untextured faces. Also make sure that the faces show the frontface (in monochrome face style, the blueish color means the backface and white means frontface). I also struggled with this in one of my monastery renders but I'm sure it can be solved .

                  I keep my eyes open, because the last thing we need are people. Plebeians and patricians, Cicero and senators... Maybe there are some good movies in tv these days, where I can catch some people...

                  About the right locations of white faces in monochrome mode, earlier to me has specified pichuneke. Since then I try to avoid mistakes. But unfortunately, in my models a lot of blue faces ๐Ÿ˜ž In this respect completely correctly made only 4 models: tabularium, mausoleums of Augustus and Hadrian and Severus arch. While working on the model of Forum Romanum, I turned the vast majority of blue faces, but surely they still have ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                  • Z Offline
                    Z-Akh69
                    last edited by

                    Hi everyone,

                    I'm rendering with the demo of Twilight:

                    http://www.twilightrender.com/

                    Today I worked on the proportions of the Corinthian columns but I am not satisfied with the result.
                    I finally chose Vignola base while keeping the height prescribed by Vitruvius for the capital.
                    I removed the bulge and I try to get the right height for the entire column.

                    I already posted my work here:

                    escargot-archi.eu

                    This domain may be for sale!

                    favicon

                    (www.escargot-archi.eu)

                    ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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                    • DanikD Offline
                      Danik
                      last edited by

                      Hi to all!
                      I've finished my new model - baths of Caracalla.
                      The general view:

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3857-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2511-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1483-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1024-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/5-742-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/6-564-th.JPG

                      The great hall:

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3858-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2512-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1484-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1025-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/5-743-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/6-565-th.JPG

                      Frigidarium:

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3859-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2513-th.JPG

                      http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1485-th.JPG
                      [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1026.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1026-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4]

                      Tepidarium:
                      [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3860.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3860-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2514.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2514-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1486.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1486-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1027.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1027-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4]

                      Caldarium
                      [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3861.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3861-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2515.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2515-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1487.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1487-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1028.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1028-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4]

                      Palestra
                      [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3862.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3862-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2516.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2516-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1488.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1488-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1029.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1029-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4]

                      Other interiors were also made and textured

                      Download link: [url:13o7zaq4]http://www.filefront.com/15236645/BATHS OF CARACALLA.skp[/url:13o7zaq4]

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Hi Danila,

                        Downloading...
                        From the images, it seems to be an amazing model. ๐Ÿ‘

                        Gai...

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                        • A Offline
                          Aerilius
                          last edited by

                          fantastic!!!
                          I always wonder from where you get info about the interior design...

                          By the way (don't take it amiss! it is already more than perfect), if you want to avoid repetition, you can randomly rotate the column components around 90ยฐ or flip them.

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                          • Z Offline
                            Z-Akh69
                            last edited by

                            ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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                            • DanikD Offline
                              Danik
                              last edited by

                              Some screens of other interiors:


                              http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3863-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2517-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1489-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1030-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/5-744-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/6-566-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/7-443-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/8-390-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/9-315-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/10-288-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/11-546-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/12-448-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/13-248-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/14-201-th.JPG

                              http://www.picatom.com/17/15-186-th.JPG
                              [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/16-159.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/16-159-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/17-139.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/17-139-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/18-118.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/18-118-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/19-111.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/19-111-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/20-133.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/20-133-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/21-169.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/21-169-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/22-214.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/22-214-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/23-133.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/23-133-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/24-85.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/24-85-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/25-87.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/25-87-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/26-77.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/26-77-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/27-77.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/27-77-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/28-79.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/28-79-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/29-65.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/29-65-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/30-71.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/30-71-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/31-74.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/31-74-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/32-79.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/32-79-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/33-112.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/33-112-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/34-64.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/34-64-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/35-62.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/35-62-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/36-55.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/36-55-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/37-51.html:2ygf9ust][img:2ygf9ust]http://www.picatom.com/17/37-51-th.JPG[/img:2ygf9ust][/url:2ygf9ust]

                              Also the model is presented in 3D Warehouse ๐Ÿ˜„
                              [url:2ygf9ust]http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4aeaf6da14d9c5a1288ed9bca759b0ad[/url:2ygf9ust]

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                              • P Offline
                                pichuneke
                                last edited by

                                ยกยกยกDios mio!!!

                                Forgive my spanglish...

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                                • DanikD Offline
                                  Danik
                                  last edited by

                                  Some renders of the baths made in Kerkythea:


                                  http://www.picatom.com/18/3-1496-th.jpg

                                  http://www.picatom.com/18/5-750-th.jpg

                                  http://www.picatom.com/18/6-571-th.jpg

                                  http://www.picatom.com/18/7-448-th.jpg


                                  http://www.picatom.com/18/9-316-th.jpg

                                  http://www.picatom.com/18/10-290-th.jpg

                                  http://www.picatom.com/18/11-551-th.jpg

                                  http://www.picatom.com/18/12-449-th.jpg

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                                  • Z Offline
                                    Z-Akh69
                                    last edited by

                                    Marvelous ! ๐Ÿ‘

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                                    • S Offline
                                      sketchup_fan
                                      last edited by

                                      Beautiful, the only thing that is missing is the parking lot for the horses and the carriages. ๐Ÿ˜†

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                                      • DanikD Offline
                                        Danik
                                        last edited by

                                        I have made some panoramas of my baths of Caracalla in Kerkythea in the same manner as Aerilius has made the panorama of my basilica of Maxentius.

                                        So, the palestra:
                                        [flash=500,400:gryi075y]http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/295/viewer.xml[/flash:gryi075y]

                                        The big apse:
                                        [flash=500,400:gryi075y]http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/296/viewer.xml[/flash:gryi075y]

                                        The frigidarium:
                                        [flash=500,400:gryi075y]http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/302/viewer.xml[/flash:gryi075y]

                                        The main hall:
                                        [flash=500,400:gryi075y]http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/301/viewer.xml[/flash:gryi075y]

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                                        • A Offline
                                          Aerilius
                                          last edited by

                                          Ha! Great! ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ I believe I'm in the real baths of Caracalla. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                                          Try a bit to use more material settings: in the material editor, you can give ca. 40% specularity to the columns and the marble. (I also once used 10% reflection, but I'd rather not do that again because it needs much time to calculate).
                                          In addition, the marble textures could be a bit larger and less repeating (If I find something, I'll post it)

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            And two other ones on the KT forums:
                                            http://www.kerkythea.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5312
                                            then a nice terrazzo material:
                                            http://www.kerkythea.net/joomla/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=42&func=fileinfo&id=102

                                            (if only I knew how to deal with procedurals)

                                            Gai...

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