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    • A Offline
      ArCAD-UK
      last edited by

      Aha β˜€ I've been making wrong assumption about your super glue.

      Could you clarify the update process of a glued SCUT? Say I've created a SCUT for my model, I then go and change the size of an object within the cut plane what are the steps to getting it to update. I ask because I think I'm missing something simple.

      πŸ‘ for the default edit.

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      • bmikeB Offline
        bmike
        last edited by

        this looks great TIG. i'll have to try it - but i've been using a slightly modified version of your original and hate to part with it. (mainly defaults, etc...)

        -mike

        mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          @bmike said:

          this looks great TIG. i'll have to try it - but i've been using a slightly modified version of your original and hate to part with it. (mainly defaults, etc...)

          -mike
          Make sure you keep a copy of the old rb version as the new rb file installed into Plugins will overwrite it...
          The current version [v3.3] let's you edit the list of default 'colors' in the drop-down, and also set default behaviors - like default-color, and the other options which are defaulted to YES can be set to NO - although remember that options some are mutually exclusive, e.g. a 'Glued' SCUT has to be 'Locked' etc...

          TIG

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @arcad-uk said:

            Aha β˜€ I've been making wrong assumption about your super glue.

            Could you clarify the update process of a glued SCUT? Say I've created a SCUT for my model, I then go and change the size of an object within the cut plane what are the steps to getting it to update. I ask because I think I'm missing something simple.

            πŸ‘ for the default edit.
            If the newly made SCUT is set to 'Glue', then whenever its linked Section-Pane is moved/rotated etc the SCUT faces will be reformed to suit the newly sliced objects. You'll need to complete the move etc so its faces are 'refreshed'.
            Whenever the rest of the model is changed, then any Glued SCUTs - irrespective of their 'context' - are updated so their faces correctly reflect what they now intersect, following the changes to the model...

            A non-Glued SCUT behaves just like the previous version's section-cuts - the SCUT has no link to the Section-Plane can be moved away from it, edited etc [provided it's unlocked]

            TIG

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            • JQLJ Offline
              JQL
              last edited by

              TIG,

              Excellent plugin got even better!!!

              However tried to edit SectionCutFace_loader.rb but had no success:

              • What is the name for I should use for Default color? I copied what you had in the list...
              • Why doesn't it change the default for hide edges?

              Best regards,

              JQL

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              • bmikeB Offline
                bmike
                last edited by

                I'm not getting that behavior, I installed directly from the SU Plugin store, let it overwrite my old version. Lock toggle seems broken, and I don't get anything to update.

                YouTube (I'm on a Mac, up to date OS, SKPro2013):

                -Mike

                mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  @JQL

                  What you show should change the default material to 'nil' "<#{DEFAULT}>" and the @hide to NO ?
                  It worked for me in testing...
                  Something has come adrift in the rb>rbs processing πŸ˜•
                  Wait for v3.4...

                  TIG

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                  • A Offline
                    ArCAD-UK
                    last edited by

                    @tig said:

                    If the newly made SCUT is set to 'Glue', then whenever its linked Section-Pane is moved/rotated etc the SCUT faces will be reformed to suit the newly sliced objects. You'll need to complete the move etc so its faces are 'refreshed'.
                    Whenever the rest of the model is changed, then any Glued SCUTs - irrespective of their 'context' - are updated so their faces correctly reflect what they now intersect, following the changes to the model...

                    If I move the section and create a new glued SCUT the old one is deleted πŸ‘ but as per Bmike's posts the SCUTs aren't updating automatically as suggested by your post even with a simple box.

                    If there are a large number of sections in a file updating a SCUT after every geometric change may not be good for productivity, it would be better to have a "refresh cut" menu item.

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @bmike

                      If you read the notes Lock = No only works if Glue = No
                      If you set Glue Yes Lock is always set = Yes whatever you want to do.

                      I am perplexed how you don't seem to get the cuts updating properly - many others do...
                      Perhaps it's a MAC issue ?
                      I'll be issuing a new version shortly, try that and report back...

                      TIG

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                      • bmikeB Offline
                        bmike
                        last edited by

                        @tig said:

                        @bmike

                        If you read the notes Lock = No only works if Glue = No
                        If you set Glue Yes Lock is always set = Yes whatever you want to do.

                        I am perplexed how you don't seem to get the cuts updating properly - many others do...
                        Perhaps it's a MAC issue ?
                        I'll be issuing a new version shortly, try that and report back...

                        Sorry, I misinterpreted the Lock / Unlock, but it makes sense.
                        I will try again, and when I see an update, I'll test.

                        Odd, for sure.

                        mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's v3.4
                          http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172583#p172583
                          The glitch with the customized dialog items is fixed.
                          Glue==Yes no longer forces a Lock.
                          The default for Glue is now No.
                          There are now three choices for 'Glue':
                          Yes = The SCUT is linked and will change with the Section-Plane/Model all of the time.
                          No = There is no link between the SCUT and the Section-Plane once it's been made.
                          On_Demand = The SCUT is linked to the Section-Plane, but it only updates when you use the context-menu to 'Redo SectionCutPlane' - this item appears only if the selected Section-Plane has that type of linking set.

                          TIG

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                          • G Offline
                            gbing
                            last edited by

                            @tig said:

                            @bmike

                            ...
                            I am perplexed how you don't seem to get the cuts updating properly - many others do...
                            Perhaps it's a MAC issue ?
                            I'll be issuing a new version shortly, try that and report back...

                            Hi TIG,
                            same problem for me (no update on moving cutting plane or stretching geometry) on WIN 7pro 64.
                            I tried on both Sketchup 2013 PRO and Sketchup 8 PRO.

                            Thanks.
                            Giovanni

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @gbing said:

                              @tig said:

                              @bmike
                              ...
                              I am perplexed how you don't seem to get the cuts updating properly - many others do...
                              Perhaps it's a MAC issue ?
                              I'll be issuing a new version shortly, try that and report back...

                              Hi TIG,
                              same problem for me (no update on moving cutting plane or stretching geometry) on WIN 7pro 64.
                              I tried on both Sketchup 2013 PRO and Sketchup 8 PRO.

                              Thanks.
                              Giovanni
                              Weird πŸ˜• BUT have you tried the latest - v3.4 - as well as Yes/No for 'Glue' this now has an 'On_Demand' option - that way it will update when you tell it to, from a special the context-menu item, otherwise it stays where you first made it...

                              TIG

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                              • A Offline
                                ArCAD-UK
                                last edited by

                                TIG, Many thanks for the latest version. The REDO is working perfectly. 😍 The auto update still doesn't but I doubt I would use it by choice anyway as my models are quite complex. You could omit it if there seems to be a global problem getting it to work?

                                I have been having problems with reversed faces and filled voids which is almost certainly down to my modelling and the well known "when is a hole not a hole" interpretation issue, which is why I was asking for a glued edges only option; I have resolved that by using the native "wireframe" mode for a style showing just the SCFs so I can overlay the linework on my plans. β˜€

                                I've not had time to check the default settings overrides but other than that πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Here's v3.5 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172583#p172583

                                  The permutations of the dialog's options is now more relaxed.
                                  The only disallowed combos are with the <No_Faces> option - no hiding edges and you must keep faceless edges - otherwise you see nothing or the cut-group is empty !
                                  Otherwise you can now have a <No_Faces> cut that is glued/On_Demand - although its visibility will be restricted when it's on the Plane...

                                  TIG

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                                  • G Offline
                                    gbing
                                    last edited by

                                    @tig said:

                                    @gbing said:

                                    @tig said:

                                    @bmike
                                    ...

                                    same problem for me (no update on moving cutting plane or stretching geometry) on WIN 7pro 64.
                                    I tried on both Sketchup 2013 PRO and Sketchup 8 PRO.

                                    Thanks.
                                    Giovanni
                                    Weird πŸ˜• BUT have you tried the latest - v3.4 - as well as Yes/No for 'Glue' this now has an 'On_Demand' option - that way it will update when you tell it to, from a special the context-menu item, otherwise it stays where you first made it...

                                    πŸ˜„ Tried v 3.5 --> GLUE "on demand" works fine; GLUE "Yes" isn't working for me (tried every combination of YES/NO).
                                    But I think that "on demand" could be the best option for complex models β˜€ .

                                    Thank you,
                                    Giovanni

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                                    • J Offline
                                      jorge2011
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Tig, the plugin generates an error after creating the plane section, and closes sketchup 2013.
                                      Section Cut faces.jpg

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                                      • J Offline
                                        jorge2011
                                        last edited by

                                        I found the error. The Beta version of the V-ray1.6 plugin is generating errors in several plug and makes close sketchup

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @jorge2011 said:

                                          I found the error. The Beta version of the V-ray1.6 plugin is generating errors in several plug and makes close sketchup
                                          The Vray beta has a lot to answer for !
                                          For those of you experiencing similar issues even without Vray loading... can you please check that you have none of the plugins loading that are listed as 'quarantined' by SCF - several are known to mess with base-classes for 'group' etc and/or have messy observers that kick in inappropriately... which is what I suspect Vray is doing... Also check for recent 'BIM' additions to your plugins, some are also known to mess with base-classes/observers ill-advisedly, and in doing so compromise some other scripts as they go about their legitimate business.

                                          TIG

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                                          • S Offline
                                            smicha
                                            last edited by

                                            TIG,

                                            If this has been mentioned - sorry for duplicating topics:

                                            I installed SU 2013. I the Extension Warehouse there is not your name (in the author list) neither your plugins. Am I missing something?

                                            smicha

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