MODO 401 thread
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Awesome find. I learned more in these videos than the previous 15 hours of other tutorials I watched. All tutorials should be so precise.
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This is a link to a thread on the modo forums where Ernesto Pacheco, who made the 3 tutorials that sepo provided a link to, explains that these are the first volume of a three volume series.
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Does anyone know if its possible to get inference and snapping like in SU?
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@kwistenbiebel said:
My question would be : does Modo allows for moving cars, animated people textures, water effects etc...?
You're better off asking this question over at Lux HQ.
Oh ... I stumbled upon a great post by grantm. It pretty much covers everything you need to know to successfully bring SU models into Modo.
**"SU to Modo via OBJ
a. Make sure you don't have reversed faces in SU (in monochrome view all your faces should show the front face colour).
b. In SU obj export options you can either triangulate all faces (safer if you just want a clean render in modo) or you can take a chance with no triangulation (easier if you want to continue working on the model in modo). No triangulation may cause some messed up faces (usually complex ngons) but usually tripling them in modo(menu>geometry>polygon>triple) will fix them.
c. The Statistics>Polygons>By Vertex list is a handy place to isolate messed-up Ngons (>4 verts) which may need to be tripled. Sometimes this is the only way to select them because they aren't visible on the model or they appear as a perimeter with no filling.
d. In SU try to avoid internal 'baffle' polys which divide your model into compartments in the same way as bulkheads in a ship would do. Because one face of such a poly is a front and the other is a backface they can confuse modo (and SU) as to which way the adjacent polys are supposed to face. This can lead to flipped faces on the outer skin.
e. A handy way to check for flipped polys is to do a quick Ambient Occlusion render - trouble spots show up black.
f. In modo hit the F key a few times to flip all the faces twice, sometimes this clears up any faces that turned inside out during import. You can also try menu>geometry>polygon>align to automatically turn all faces the same way but if you have any internal polys (see d. above) this tool will make a mess.
g. If you think a face is missing first try to move your view around to the other side of the face, this may require getting inside the model, the face may me there, it may just need flipping.
h. If you just need a quick render the quickest way to deal with a whole mess of flipped polys is to just make their material double-sided (in the material properties tab). The model will look ok and render well enough but this quick fix is a bad, bad idea if you need to work on the model because many tools need to know which way a poly faces in order to work properly. Tools like 'push' will make any flipped polys go the wrong way and tools like Edge Bevel will do really weird things if an adjacent face is inside out.
i. In SU you group geometry to stop it sticking to adjacent geometry. During obj import into modo you may find that some adjacent geometries have become welded together. If you need to separate things for easier editing go to Statistics>Polygons>By Part and you'll see a list of base level groups in the mesh. Click the plus sign to select all the polys in a group, then you can cut and paste them to separate them from the main mesh or to move them to another layer(mesh item). If your model has zillions of such groups with meaningless names, click a poly in the model and then look in the list to see which group name lights up.
j. The Statistics>Polygons>By Material list is also a handy place to make selections when re-ordering the model.
k. If your model is complex or you need easier ordering than this it's better to export it from SU in distinct chunks using the 'Export selected only" option in the obj options dialog.
L. In modo go to Lists>Vertex Maps>Other maps and delete the Surface Normal map. This should get rid of shading errors.
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40 is about the number of inches in a metre. Try setting your SU export units to metres.
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In 302 that normal map gave you shading errors on import, in 401 it doesn't. But if you don't delete that Normal map it starts to affect the smoothing of any faces you add in modo, so you should still get rid of it.
If you see shading errors appearing later check that the Normal map hasn't 'come back' after you deleted it. I've had this happen, not sure how exactly, maybe some of my geometry was hidden when I deleted it so I only deleted the normals for the visible stuff, the other normal map data was still there?"**
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Thanks Sepo for the links to the tutorials. They are a big help.
I am looking into Modo as a second rendering option, especially for architectural animation.
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Thanks stinkie!
If I am reading correctly between the lines, exporting from SU as .obj will not hold the materials in Modo. Correct?
(because Sketchup doesn't write a .mtl file next to the .obj together with a textures folder)Off topic but not really : why doesn't SU write that .mtl file? Could someone write a script for that?
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kwistenbiebel: tried http://www.idevgames.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13513 ?
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Hey, thanks Tavi!
Great link.[EDIT]: Unfortunately the SU2OBJ ruby doesn't work. It shows up in the plugins list but when you click on it, nothing happens (SU6)
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works for me the obj export. though i was unable to get with textures in Modo.
any errors in Ruby console when clicking on Plugins menu item ?
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Materials import fine into Modo using the standard .obj option. You will usually just get a prompt to find the path associated with the materials and then it pulls them all in.
Has anyone tried going the other direction? Modo > SU? I wanted to model some pillows in Modo and then bring them back into sketchup, but there is no .3ds export out of Modo. I guess I could go .obj, then take it into another program (i.e. Max, Silo or DE) to convert to .3ds, but I thought there had to be an easier way.
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I thought it strange that there is no .3ds export. I supose .obj and using third party converter or using importer made by Jim Foltz ( I thinkI am correct). I remember reading about it. I have not tried it so I do not know how good it is.
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What's up with Modo's memory usage? I'm trying to take a project into Modo for rendering and some modeling tweaks, but I'm ready to give up. I've had at least 5 crashes and Modo is just hogging all my systems memory. I'm running on my laptop, with 4GB DDR3 and a GeForce Cuda 9800 M GTS video card with a GB of dedicated video memory and Modo is hogging it all. Subsequently, I've opened the same exact file, at the same time in 3DS Max and it's running flawlessly and using about 10% of the memory that Modo is using. I'm ready to give up on Modo for this project and it's back to Max for me.
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It may be best to post your specs and screenies of your settings on the Lux forum.
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people, check this thread by Andeciuala... he is importing Sketchup models directly into MODO 401 (As seen on 1:44 of his video, where it shows MODO 401 recognizing all Sketchup files)!!!
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=29011&p=259176#p259176
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