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    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      one last thing...how does it work? 😳

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      • soloS Offline
        solo
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        Ah, seems to be working, the one thing that I missed was my SU resolution/aspect vs Vue render size.

        http://www.solos-art.com

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          Alex Jenyon
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          @Solo:

          There's a 'readme' file in the zip folder I uploaded, which hopefully explains everything.

          Let me know if you have any trouble getting it to work - I haven't tried it on any system apart from mine yet, so a bit of testing is probably in order.

          If it's working well for you, then please post the script / tutorials wherever you want.

          Enjoy!

          AJ

          Concept artist / Matte painter
          www.aj-concepts.net

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            matteo
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            hi Alex,

            I've tested it with Vue 7 Esprit on windows xp: sadly it can't read this kind of python script (see attached image).

            Howerer, if i open the python script with a text editor, i can copy and paste the camera coordinates and orientation into the upper right panel of Vue.

            Now my problem is how to convert SU fov to Vue fov, since I can't find the the box labelled 'Vertical FoV' in the advanced camera options of Vue 7 Esprit. I'll have to develop a small trigonometric function to convert it.


            su2vue_py.jpg

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              solo
              last edited by

              success!!

              http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5546/0704sumodel518.jpg

              http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2504/testsu2vue.jpg

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                craftycurate
                last edited by

                Hi ...

                Thanks for making Camera2Vue available ...

                However, although I'm sure I followed the instructions, the scene does not appear as expected - the camera is not positioned correctly relative to the 3B object.

                I don't have Sketchup Pro so can't export as as OBJ with "swap yz" - would that make a difference?

                I am using an OBJ exporter script instead.

                Thanks
                Richard

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                  Alex Jenyon
                  last edited by

                  @craftycurate:

                  I'm honestly not sure - I just tried to record my own process as closely as possible.

                  It's worth checking in 'vue' to see if the orientation of the object is nearly right - i.e. the vertical axis in SU is the same as the 'up' in Vue.

                  If it is, there are a couple of things to check:

                  1. The field of view matches (SU's 'field of view' is the VERTICAL field of view in 'VUE'

                  2. The units are the same. My script outputs the camera data in METRES. If your obj exporter uses mm, feet, or something else it's not going to match.

                  3. The object is not hidden by the ground plane in 'vue' (delete it to make sure). Also check that vue doesn't automatically centre or resize your obj geometry.

                  Hope you can sort it out!

                  @matteo:

                  Vue d'esprit can only read python scripts that e-on has created themselves. I don't have a copy, so I can't test out your problem. It should be possible to use the FoV and the aspect ratio to calculate the camera focal length - there's plenty of info around on how to do this, but it's a bit tricky. Let me know if you find a workaround, and I might try to add it to the script.

                  @Solo:

                  Yay! Great news - glad you got it playing ball. Did it work the way I described, or did you have to put in a bit of extra legwork?
                  Please put together a video tutoral if you've got the time - I'm not sure it's something I'm going to be able to do.

                  Thanks for your time everyone - most appreciated.

                  AJ

                  Concept artist / Matte painter
                  www.aj-concepts.net

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                    craftycurate
                    last edited by

                    Hi Alex ...

                    Thanks - I'll try out your suggestions.

                    Cheers
                    Richard

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                      craftycurate
                      last edited by

                      Here's another one - used a Sketchy Edge style to cover the inaccuracies, but it looks quite nice!


                      blank_scene2c.jpg

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                        craftycurate
                        last edited by

                        I'm very close but not quite there - not sure what needs changing. I am working at maximum precision in Sketchup ... maybe rounding errors in Vue, which only accepts 3 dps.

                        it isn't just a scaling error, but there is a slight rotational one too - the left corner is matched, but the bottom one isn't.

                        I import the SKP file into Vue as an SKP - the free OBJ exporter creates a mirror image for some reason.

                        If I can get this working for the SKP file, it might be useful to other Free SU users.

                        Cheers
                        Richard


                        Camera2VueTest1b.jpg

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                          Marian
                          last edited by

                          Doest it work with any of those free vue types?

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                          • soloS Offline
                            solo
                            last edited by

                            Should work with the PLE version.

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                              solo
                              last edited by

                              Here is a quick pdf tutorial with installation files:

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                                Alex Jenyon
                                last edited by

                                @Solo: That's brilliant - thank you so much for taking the time to put that together. Mind if I host a mirror of it on my own server?

                                @craftycurate: Can you upload / email me the skippy file, and let me know which version of 'Vue' you are using? I'll look into it, see if I can some up with a solution for you. alex [at] aj-concepts.net

                                Cheers

                                AJ

                                Concept artist / Matte painter
                                www.aj-concepts.net

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                                  solo
                                  last edited by

                                  Sure thing Alex.

                                  http://www.solos-art.com

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                                    Alex Jenyon
                                    last edited by

                                    Okay, I've got a workaround for folks who only have SUfree.

                                    I have absolutely no idea WHY it works, but it seems to - so please test it and see if you can work it out yourself.

                                    1. Export the geometry as a google earth .kmz file

                                    2. Rename the file from name.kmz to name.zip (i.e. change the file type to .zip)

                                    3. Unzip the .zip file

                                    4. Open the 'models' folder, and find 'name.dae' - this is a collada file

                                    5. Import the collada file to 'Vue'

                                    6. Scale it by 3.937. No, I have no idea why, but it seems to work. Anyone know why it's this value?

                                    (To do this, if you're not sure: Select your object, and click on the 'size' icon - the cube that's been stretched vertically. Calculate what the 'x' size of the object multiplied by 3.937 is. Then lock x, y and z sizes together - using the padlock icon - and enter this value in the 'x' size field. All the values should scale together.)

                                    1. Follow the rest of my method to match the camera.

                                    AJ

                                    Concept artist / Matte painter
                                    www.aj-concepts.net

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                                      sepo
                                      last edited by

                                      Will it work with Vue 5 Infinite ?

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                                        sepo
                                        last edited by

                                        Ok I will try and let you know. Thanks for your reply. I never really upgraded from Vue 5 as I hated camera...Donno if it is any better now.

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                                          Alex Jenyon
                                          last edited by

                                          @sepo - I don't know, and don't have any way of testing it.... Only one way to find out, I guess.

                                          I'm using fairly basic python commands in Vue, but I think the command to select the camera changed between Vue 6 and Vue 7, which might mean the script doesn't work.

                                          You could try deleting the first two lines of the python script, manually selecting the camera in Vue, and then running the script normally.

                                          Otherwise, you might need to do a bit of digging into the python documentation for Vue 5 to get it working seamlessly, but it shouldn't be too tricky.

                                          AJ

                                          Concept artist / Matte painter
                                          www.aj-concepts.net

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                                            craftycurate
                                            last edited by

                                            @alex jenyon said:

                                            @sepo - I don't know, and don't have any way of testing it.... Only one way to find out, I guess.

                                            I'm using fairly basic python commands in Vue, but I think the command to select the camera changed between Vue 6 and Vue 7, which might mean the script doesn't work.

                                            You could try deleting the first two lines of the python script, manually selecting the camera in Vue, and then running the script normally.

                                            Otherwise, you might need to do a bit of digging into the python documentation for Vue 5 to get it working seamlessly, but it shouldn't be too tricky.

                                            AJ

                                            Thanks Alex - it works beautifully. Looks pixel perfect. Here's an example render.

                                            Thanks for all your help & for providing this great script - I'll be interested to try it with some architectural models.
                                            RichardC2V Test4.jpg

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