"I'm ready to lose control, but they're not"
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Ely862me,
I figure that Pbacot and Marian have summed it up pretty well, and I'm not trying to attack you. I'm quite happy to have a good discussion with you, and your opinions are welcome - so don't feel like I'm trying to shut you up. As with any internet discussion, any time you type something, there is almost 100% guarantee someone will disagree with you, and do so angrily. Luckily this message board is pretty civilized, even when there are disagreements.
You are correct about the US jumping in, often where they are not wanted. I don't claim to have any understanding of why we do, and I often don't agree with what my government does. I do wish we'd keep our noses, and soldiers, out of everyone else's business.
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Like I always said, The problems in Zimbabwe would never have gotten so dire if they had even a morsel of oil, as without oil America is not interested in helping.
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Usually I try to not post comments in threads like this because i m not that old(22) to know many things like u(well the majority) know.
But i do like to give my opinion if that subject touches me from some direction.
Overall in this short life,each one is doing his share(even if we agree or not with everyone*s share).
Have a nice day,night,morning people!
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@tig said:
Unfortunately "irredentorial" is probably not a word in most languages - except perhaps in some non-standard Spanish - BUT it should mean something like "unredeeming" if it were... do you mean this - something like 'not able to be saved, recovered or changed by any sacrifice' ?
thanks TIG,
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@solo said:
Like I always said, The problems in Zimbabwe would never have gotten so dire if they had even a morsel of oil, as without oil America is not interested in helping.
Way, waytoo true.
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@solo said:
Like I always said, The problems in Zimbabwe would never have gotten so dire if they had even a morsel of oil, as without oil America is not interested in helping.
Who is America interested in helping?
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Themselves? </gross generalisation>
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@remus said:
Themselves? </gross generalisation>
Well, we are obviously not talking about our fellows here or even an average American but "high politics".
And I believe that many politicians in many other countries would love to act similarly if they could. -
"high politics".
i dont get it.
Gaieus, are you going or are you coming ?
your avatar is so intriguing now
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DARA's (Development Assistance Research Associates ) findings reflect what it called the United States’ use of humanitarian assistance to achieve military or political goals in eight crisis zones the group studied, including Afghanistan, Colombia and the Palestinian territories. The assessment challenges the United States’ view of itself “as the paragon of global compassion,” Larry Minear, a retired professor at Tufts University.
Again, The US's goals and humanitarian aid and assistance is self serving.
We here in the States hear all about how generous we are and how we are the ONLY country that makes sacrifices and gives aid, but that's a lie as (DARA) Humanitarian Response Index 2008 measures how effectively the world's 23 largest donors deliver aid. The United States ranked 15th in overall effectiveness and 13th in the level of generosity measured by the size of its economy.
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Anybody read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?"
I think that, even if it isn't the whole truth, it's probably too close to reality to be untrue.
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@escapeartist said:
Anybody read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?"
I think that, even if it isn't the whole truth, it's probably too close to reality to be untrue.
Only a few pages, a friend had the book.
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this guy, John Perkins, has a web_page
http://www.dreamchange.org/
i have watched his videos in you tube
it is most impressive his talk to the ancients warriors of usa
i started to get shocked.
here in Spain, some of us always thought about what was doing the usa empire . If it not would be behind the curtains a terrible acting for conquering power without caring for the people.
But it is terrible to hear what this man has said.
you just can not react.
at least myself
Nowadays i dont pay much attention whether it is true or not.
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@solo said:
Like I always said, The problems in Zimbabwe would never have gotten so dire if they had even a morsel of oil, as without oil America is not interested in helping.
Who is America interested in helping?
Gaius, I think "helping" is meant facetiously in this case. While I agree with the general tenor, I think people tend to go overboard in their jaded outlook. Yes, the support of "U.S. interests" (Mult-national Corporations' interest) must be at the heart of foreign policy. It doesn't mean rice is not delivered or that the people (Americans) working for US aid are not acting in good faith and taxpayers don't wish to see their money go to food rather than bombs.
How do you want the U.S. to help Zimbabwe, Solo? Shall we invade and kill hundreds of thousands Zimbabwe citizens? The UN (some believe to be an arm of the US) hasn't managed to do much. The pressure from other nations to get Tsvangirai in the government is probably all that could be done. But the U.S. has to solve everything, immediately, from problems going back hundreds of years.
Conservatives and the onlooking world forget that there are evil despots all over the world. It is not possible for Americans to remove them all so the next despots (or despots friendly to the U.S.) can take power. I wish our country would just take a giant step back, but that's not going to happen. Our taxes, military, and politicians are at the service of the multi-national corporations.
(Sorry for all the "double-negative" phrases. Probably confusing for non-English speakers)
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Unfortunately "irredentorial" is probably not a word in most languages - except perhaps in some non-standard Spanish - BUT it should mean something like "unredeeming" or better "irredeemable" if it were... do you mean this - something like 'not able to be saved, recovered or changed by any effort or sacrifice' ?
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@unknownuser said:
The problem with you Stinkie, is that when people like myself point you to evidence, you immediately refute it.
Thats generally what happens when the evidence doesnt support the claim.
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@unknownuser said:
@unknownuser said:
I am starting to grow increasingly tired of that "either you get it, or you're blind and to be pitied" undercurrent of both your and Coen's posts.
The problem with you Stinkie, is that when people like myself point you to evidence, you immediately refute it. Hence people like myself don't feel like educating you since basically you're either ignorant or stupid. Now I know you're not stupid, so I'll just stick to the former.
But do what you must, time will tell.@gaieus said:
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He he , good one
Don't step on Stinkie's professional toes. The Copywriter in him knows what he's doing.Very amusing (mal)conversation I must say
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@unknownuser said:
Erg kinderachtig hoor, prive berichten delen op het open forum. Bovendien is het tegen de regels.
translates as: "Very childish to share PM messages publically. What is more, it is against forum rules"
Oh, put a sock in it, Coen!
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