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    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      Tried version 2, still sucks, unless making blobs that are badly UV mapped is your thing.

      You can achieve the same effect by tracing the same profile in SU, pulling it and then using SDS.

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        xrok1
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        🤣

        you're too kind. 🤣

        “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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          Aerilius
          last edited by

          Here are the photos.
          The rock has a total height of 12.5 m, the plate is 7m x 7m and 3.5m thick.
          Has someone experiences with the Arc3D service? If it worked, I think it would be the best solution.

          Thanks for the replies


          the right edge is identical to the left edge of the next image


          (2).jpg


          (3).jpg

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            8-perf
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            Hello-
            New guy here. This is my first post actually. Just wondering where this rock is located. If its famous enough, there mught already be some 3D data available on it, in the form of DEM data, survey work, or even some simple "terrain" image from Google Earth itself. You might also be able to work it out with enough images using Photomatch. Start off with a square "blocky" version and then refine it later. Just a thought. Good luck with it.

            8-Perf

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              linea
              last edited by

              Looking at that rock, it is quite angular anyway. Give photomatch a go.

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                idraft
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                You could give this a try
                http://www.pixdim.com/content/view/120/55/lang,en/

                In beta testing I think, but if not available maybe you could ask them to do it for you, as a promo thing??
                http://www.acvt.com.au/research/videotrace/

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                  xrok1
                  last edited by

                  @idraft said:

                  You could give this a try
                  http://www.pixdim.com/content/view/120/55/lang,en/

                  In beta testing I think, but if not available maybe you could ask them to do it for you, as a promo thing??
                  http://www.acvt.com.au/research/videotrace/

                  are you volunteering to climb the rock with 50 stickers? 😆

                  “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                    layziefj
                    last edited by

                    You could try this:

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                    (www.photomodeler.com)

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                      notareal
                      last edited by

                      After reading this I did remember this
                      http://make3d.stanford.edu/

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                        ding851211
                        last edited by

                        good~~~~

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                          Aerilius
                          last edited by

                          Many Thanks!, it has been solvedlong ago:
                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=18244&hilit=+organic

                          I didn't find a better solution than modeling it by hand, until it fits from every perspective to the outlines of the photos. My favorite alternative was the following:

                          Arc3D http://homes.esat.kuleuven.be/~visit3d/webservice/v2/
                          Creates automatically models from many photos. Seems to be promissing and very accurate, but off service.

                          Sketchup photomatch
                          Very accurate, if you have really orthogonal geometry (not in my case).

                          pixdim or http://www.photomodeler.com
                          Similar to photomatch, but using two photos (i.e. stereo photos). Very accurate, if you can place the black/white reference points before taking high resolution photos. Otherwise (photos from web) not accurate.

                          Archipelis http://www.archipelis.com/product.php
                          Good for rounded things, not accurate.

                          http://make3d.stanford.edu
                          Uses only single images and makes a very inaccurate guess of the depth info. But nevertheless impressive.

                          http://www.photo-to-3d.com
                          In the free version, it uses only two images of low resolution and was not able to create any polygons.

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                            notareal
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                            @aerilius said:

                            2. I tried Microsoft photosynth which creates a 3d point cloud and uses it for a slideshow in 3d space. But photosynth can not export the 3d data.

                            Now you can http://binarymillenium.com/2008/08/exporting-point-clouds-from-photosynth.html + http://meshlabstuff.blogspot.com/

                            Might want to look on this http://binarymillenium.com/2008/08/photosynth-export-process-tutorial.html

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                              felderup
                              last edited by

                              http://news.creativecow.net/story/866538 i went looking today... found this...

                              '(Venice, California--June 7, 2011) Lightcraft Technology, a developer of real-time visual effects technology for the film and television industries, announced that it is making its photogrammetry tools available free-of-charge to its clients and to members of the film making community.'

                              if the license allows... i'm up for making virtual dress forms, and imvu stuff. mom does some indie stuff, has had something go into the nfb archives... and she could use some 3d junk... if that's what i'd need to do to justify the terms.

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                                oganocali
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                                You may want to give Tgi3D photoscan a try.
                                http://www.tgi3d.com/ Trial version is unlimited free for 30 days.

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                                  bjornkn
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                                  I have no idea how well that Lightcraft toolset works, but according to the info in that link it is a set of Maya plugins, making it useless if you don't own Maya (which I don't).
                                  I have used such photogrammetry software for many years, PhotoModeler and ImageModeler, and now also Tgi3Ds PhotoScan (with plugin for SketchUp), and I can tell you that with PhotoScan making such a model should be much easier/better than with those two other tools.
                                  There are also some free "3D scanners" available, but AFAIK they all produce huge, dense point clouds, which wouldn't be very useful for SU/GE work.
                                  With PhotoScan you can control exactly how much detail you want in the geometry and how much detail you leave up to the textures (applied right inside SU with PhotoMatch tools).

                                  Some of the photos you posted are croppped, which is not good for any photogrammetry software..

                                  -- I noticed that the thread is old, so the "case may be closed" already?

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                                    pilou
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                                    Photofly 😉 (it's free)
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                                      Aerilius
                                      last edited by

                                      Salut Pilou!
                                      I will add my review of Photofly to this very very old thread:
                                      http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=169&t=37848&p=334675#p334675
                                      I would like to have drone for taking aerial photos of the original subject of my first post 😉

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                                        bjornkn
                                        last edited by

                                        @aerilius said:

                                        I would like to have drone for taking aerial photos of the original subject of my first post 😉

                                        You could get a long way with a camera pole too 😄

                                        Out of curiosity - is that rock model on GE now? If it is - where is it exactly?
                                        Looks like a very strange formation.

                                        And did you try PhotoScan too?

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                                          mac1
                                          last edited by

                                          Not my area but maybe worth a read ❓ $$ http://www.brainstormllc.com/ but has 30 trial

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                                            bjornkn
                                            last edited by

                                            Photosketch looks nice, but it is advertised as a tool for creating lowpoly buildings inside SketchUp.
                                            Just like SU's own PhotoMatch, but with some automation, like undistorted photos, point clouds and higher precision?

                                            What dense point clouds does is using brute force, just like when using DEMs for generating landscapes. You really often need millions of polys to get a well defined model with crisp details/creases. It often ends up looking like a metaball/blob object.
                                            The beauty/power of PhotoScan is that it gives you the tools to model from photos fully controlled, and even make very dense automatically surface-fitted meshes like with point clouds, if that's what you want.
                                            And it can be used with any object, buildings, complex/concave organic forms, terrain - even with glass and shiny objects (which never works with point cloud mesh generators).
                                            I really doubt that any of the point cloud generators would have any chance to make an automatic model of something like this sharp edged, complicated/overlapping stainless steel sculpture?


                                            Volare.jpg

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