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      Count Spatula
      last edited by

      Yes, that's not bad for when I started the design, but once smaller features need to correspond between floors, it's a problem. Sketchup is only for use with right angles?

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        xrok1
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        there is parallel and perpendicular (purple line) inferencing as well if you hold (hover) your draw tool over an edge. if those two solutions don't work for you then you got me. oh, one more thing that may help is construction lines. make them with the tape measure and protractor tools.

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        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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          xrok1
          last edited by

          here is a construction line and a parallel inference:Capture.JPG

          here is a perp. one: 😄Capture2.JPG

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            Count Spatula
            last edited by

            What if I made a grid out of construction lines whch would give me a bunch of reference points to use (and put it on its own layer)

            ...which brings me to a related question. Sketchup doesn't let you offset just one line. You always have to slelect two lines. I don't understand that limitaton. Is there wa way to just offset one line?

            Thank you for your ideas and assisitance.

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              xrok1
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              just copy it, which is the move tool and press ctrl you will see a plus sign by the tool.
              i don't think a grid would work that well unless you just want things close or everthing is an exact multiple. the whole point of inferencing is so you don't need grids.

              PS construction lines don't have points.

              i think someone needs a "sketchup basics" refresher. 😉

              “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

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                Count Spatula
                last edited by

                I'm self taught, with some of the Aiden Chopra vids on YouTube. I don't know much about const lines. But wouldn't the point where two construction lins cross make an inference point?

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                  xrok1
                  last edited by

                  yes 😳

                  “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

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                    xrok1
                    last edited by

                    but if you insist that you want a grid just drag one out with the "sandbox->from scratch" tool?


                    Capture2.JPG

                    “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

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                      Gaieus
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                      Hi Count,

                      Above, xrok suggested you to adjust the axes to the second floor but then you both dropped that idea. I'd still go on long this.

                      Have a look at the attached file where there is a separate group for a first floor and another group for the second floor rotate by 50 degrees (that was it, right?). For the second floor I adjusted the axes so they now match with the alignment of the group. Then I created two scenes. In one scene the axes are aligned with the first floor while they are aligned with the second floor in the second scene. You can even switch scenes between operations and get your axis inference different between the two scenes.

                      Note that in the Scene manager (Window menu) I turned off Camera location (to save with scenes) so when you switch between them, your viewpoint won't change.


                      0-50degrees.skp

                      Gai...

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                        dale
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                        Great suggestion for use of scenes Gaieus, and solves the struggle with bias modeling. 👍
                        In the past I have basically modeled the whole upper floor group with the axes normal, then rotated the whole upper floor group when complete, and dealt with features like stairs etc that affect both floors. I like your method better.

                        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                          xrok1
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                          very nice tip Gaieus, i didn't know scenes would save the axis location. thanks.

                          “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

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                            Gaieus
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                            They save many-many things; check out the scene manager and the first quarter of this presentation (you may realise that you know all the presenters there 😄 )

                            Gai...

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