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    • Mike LuceyM Offline
      Mike Lucey
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      But Apple don't have that business approach. They work within their means and provide a good service. They don't want to take over the world just make it better for those willing to buy their products.

      They did go down that road for a while but saw sense in good time, thankfully πŸ‘

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
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        Guys,

        I don't want to appear smug, its just in good fun.

        I have converted a few friends to Macs as I was converted by my daughter. They continuously thank me. I have no shares in Apple. All I want to do is let people know that my MacBook Pro (second one now) has made my life a lot easier. Mac are far from perfect but they are a lot less troublesome than PC running Microsoft wares.

        Mike

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        • RayOchoaR Offline
          RayOchoa
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          a computer is a computer. all dem fanboys get really worked up about this πŸ˜†

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          • pbacotP Offline
            pbacot
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            @xrok1 said:

            @remus said:

            another thing, i'll only say this once (again), if OSX or whatever its called had to handle 15000 (modestly) different hardware manufacturers pumping out all kinds of junk peripherals with crap drivers like microsoft does..... KABOOM!!!! NO MORE STABILITY. its amazing that windows runs at all if you think about it.

            This is a VERY good point. Although I don't think MS feels responsible for every piece of hardware--the hardware makers have to match their work to the OS or not be able to sell it. Mac's also can be loaded with after-market hardware, they just control what goes in beforehand.

            When MacOS was licensed to other computer makers, I think it gave Apple a kick in the a$$. There was some good stuff happening. Some of it was not seen again for a while. Then Jobs came back and the licensing ceased (I know not in which order), but that seems to have been the right choice for Apple.

            In either platform the integration with peripherals and soft has been largely solved. On my Mac I just plug printers and devices in and they work. Sometimes I have to load drivers. New and old (some very old) software usually works. I think it's the same with Windows, compared with the past.

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              xrok1
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              @mike lucey said:

              But Apple don't have that business approach. They work within their means and provide a good service. They don't want to take over the world just make it better for those willing to buy their products.

              They did go down that road for a while but saw sense in good time, thankfully πŸ‘

              Wow, a corporation with a conscience, thats a new approch. 🀣 (cough! bullshit!) I think people give apple too much credit and fall for they're advertising. i call it greed (AKA sony betamax) they have both ends of the market, software and hardware. I bet any shareholder out there including 'Jobs' would trade there apple stocks for Microsoft stocks without blinking. Microsoft is simply more progressive and innovative period. there's really no disputing it. i think bashing Microsoft is just a hobby for some people and we should consider that most of us would never have even owned a computer if it wasn't for the PC.

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                remus
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                Its a pity microsoft cant produce any products people really want to use while theyre being 'innovative' and 'progressive'.

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
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                  xrok1,

                  One needs a reasonable understanding of a subject before you can debate it. Calling another's thoughts 'bullshit' does not cut it.

                  Mike (my REAL name πŸ˜„ )

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                    Double Espresso
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                    This will never be resolved. Play nice.

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                    • R Offline
                      remus
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                      just as i was getting ready for a good arguement πŸ˜‰

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                      • C Offline
                        chango70
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                        I recently just tried to clone my laptop HD with windows Vista so I can put a bigger drive in it. It turns out to be so much a pain in the ass that I ended just installing the new HD. On Mac it took SuperDuper something like 2 hours to clone the drive and I stuck it in and no sweat... Partitioning in Windows Vista is the same story. I really hope windows 7 sort things out.

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                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
                          Mike Lucey
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                          I also hope it does also for the sake of Windows users that are stuck with this OS.

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                            tomot
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                            I have both. I love the new I-MAC. It looks great. I set it to dual boot, which now defaults to XP.
                            I also bought the new mac key board and mouse for my PC. (LOL)

                            I love the drag and drop interface of the MAC. Not many PC applications have even heard of this feature, yet. But, If you visit the MAC forum, I see they have problems similar to PC users.

                            I run simply to many applications that are PC based that I can't afford to give up. In the mean time the I-MAC just sits there looking pretty πŸ˜„

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                            • soloS Offline
                              solo
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                              I too have an Imac, pretty thing actually, works great, all neat and clean except for desktop that seems to be the default place everything land on and can look clustered very fast. Anyhow, I hate SU on Mac, and well that's about all that works on Mac that I need for work, so the Mac is my oversized Ipod, great for streaming movies, watching youtube junk and for the kids to play with garage band. For the serious work I need a PC, preferably with XP and all my apps that make my living.

                              I really do like Mac's they are well built solid machines, but with only about 10% of market share they do not command the software support they would need for the masses to follow.

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                              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                Mike Lucey
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                                I wish I could switch over to Bootcamp with 'click' instead of having to shut down first. Parallels and others don't run the graphics card at full power as far as I can see so they are not much use for the Win software that need to use on occasion.

                                There are reports that Mac running under Bootcamp can get more mpg than PCs.
                                http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/

                                Of course a €15 USB Keyboard is useful also πŸ˜‰

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                                  Ross Macintosh
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                                  Our Macbook just had its harddrive fail. 😞 It is being replaced on warranty. So much for reliable Apple hardware. Over the years (since the late 1980's) we've always had macs & pc's. In general the macs have been less reliable...

                                  I'm bummed out.

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                                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                    Mike Lucey
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                                    Sorry to hear that Ross. However I think this is not the case in general.

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
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                                      You know, Ross, that's because you live on an island and the dealers therefore think you are pirates to whom they can sell any cr@p. πŸ˜„

                                      BTW - long time no see. How's winter over there?

                                      Gai...

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                                      • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                        Mike Lucey
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                                        Csaba, cut that out and leave poor Ross alone πŸ˜„

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                                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                          jeff hammond
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                                          @ross macintosh said:

                                          So much for reliable Apple hardware.

                                          apple makes hardware?

                                          dotdotdot

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                                            xrok1
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                                            @mike lucey said:

                                            xrok1,

                                            One needs a reasonable understanding of a subject before you can debate it. Calling another's thoughts 'bullshit' does not cut it.

                                            Mike (my REAL name πŸ˜„ )

                                            i wasn't calling your thoughts bullshit anymore than you're calling me stupid, i was saying that corporate America having a "conscience" is bullshit. but i guess if you believe that.....

                                            β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

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