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      andyc
      last edited by andyc

      I've had several requests to explain my work process. So, here's an ongoing project, step-by-step. Not completed yet, but I'll post the final version when it's done.

      Step one: the SketchUp model. I've always described my models as 'basic' - and you can see here that I wasn't joking!step1.jpg

      Step two: photo reference from the web...step1b.jpg

      Step three: the photos were cropped, manipulated and re-touched to produce about seven or eight texture maps, which were applied to the SU model...step2.jpg

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        mateo soletic
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        Andy,
        Great images and thanks for sharing your interesting work flow.

        [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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          andyc
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          Step Four: Into 3DSMax - here the model was lit from a single source, sky and atmosphere was added, and the water surface was added. This was exported as a jpeg at 4096 pixels wide...step3.jpg

          Step Five: Photoshop time!! Lots and lots of hand painting to add detail and individualise the structures. Plus add additional lighting, colour-correction etc. At this point the Photoshop work is approx 20% done.step4.jpg

          And here is an enlarged detail showing before and after the Photoshop work...step5.jpg

          That's it for now. As the Photoshop work progresses, I'll post more updates. Hope this is of some interest or use to some of you.

          Andy.

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            pilou
            last edited by

            Is the final result is a 2D illustration or a 3D file?

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              andyc
              last edited by

              Final result is a 2D illustration. (However this could then be projected back onto the geometry using camera mapping in 3DSMax to give a semi-3D result.)

              A.

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                solo
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                Thanks for the insight into your workflow, very interesting. I've always wondered how you achieved your amazing futuristic/post apocolyptic images. I am interested in your Photoshop techniques and tools, do you use a tablet for painting?

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                  andyc
                  last edited by

                  Thanks Solo.

                  Yes, use a Wacom Bamboo tablet.

                  For simpler compositions I often skip the 3DSMax step, and do all the lighting and environment stuff direct in Photoshop. However for a big scene like this that would be a bit labour-intensive!

                  Photoshop wise, it's a pretty basic arrangement: The rendered image; a layer for hand-painting; a layer for lighting/atmospheric effects; an adjustment layer for colour curves; and adjustment layer for brightness/contrast; and an adjustment layer for colour balance.

                  Andy

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                    spence
                    last edited by

                    This is really cool stuff Andy. I could use some more info, keep it coming.

                    Spence

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                      marked001
                      last edited by

                      thanks andy....have been waiting for this.. i might have to ask for a tablet for xmas... i say that every year i think 😄

                      http://www.revision21vis.com

                      instagram: revi21on

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                        andyc
                        last edited by

                        Time for another one. Same SU model, re-rendered and re-painted....
                        final002FLTs.jpg

                        A.

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                          solo
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                          That's awesome, please post an image or explain what is 3d model, photo, mix, etc.
                          I was staring at image trying to dissect it and understand your process.

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                            andyc
                            last edited by

                            Hi Solo,

                            Ok - hopefully this helps :
                            final002FLTsolo.jpg
                            The plane wreck took quite a bit of work: the reference photo was taken on a grey, cludy day, so all the light and shade had to be hand-painted in Photoshop.
                            The composition isn't quite there yet, but some human figures will be added in on the left, which I'm hoping will balance things up.

                            A.

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                              solo
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                              Thanks for the clarity, I need to get my editing skills up, work like this inspires me to get my ass in gear and start learning. unfortunatly I'm trained (sort of) in Paintshop pro (long story that began with Corel draw) and kinda on the fence about changing to Photoshop.

                              thanks again.

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                andyc
                                last edited by

                                Hi Solo,

                                For this level of work Paintshop Pro would probably be fine. I haven't used it for a while, but the later versions seemed to have really improved the painting tools. That said, I've found Photoshop's colour-correction tools to be a big step ahead - which is really useful for integrating different images together.

                                A.

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                                  DzineTech
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                                  Amazing work as always Andy 👍

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                                    ELYSIUM
                                    last edited by

                                    Great Post, its good to finally understand how its done!! keep those pictures coming.

                                    Lots of ilustrators are using sketchup as their main modeling tool for its speed, improving their work later on photoshop, check ou this work:

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Crossing the Bering Strait

                                    ' For the Conceptart.org IDW (industrial design of the week) Check out the forum here Quick Sketch Up model.

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                                    (ryandemita.blogspot.com)


                                    factory_final4.jpg


                                    factory2 copy.jpg

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                                      andyc
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                                      Thanks for that link - that guy has some nice work!!

                                      Yes, for me SU is really a layout and perspective tool - by speeding up the basic stuff it frees up the time to focus on the creative aspects - which is what any good design tool should do.

                                      A.

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                                        tinanne
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                                        Andy, I'm am so happy you started this post. I am a big fan of your work and have always coveted a glimpse into your world. I am way behind on "painting" in PS but I really want to learn. What resource would you suggest for learning these techniques other then practice, practice, practice.....?

                                        Executive Director : American Society of Architectural Illustrators
                                        AIP 30 Competition opens soon. ASAI.org

                                        Architectural Rendering

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                                          andeciuala
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                                          Hi andy, great work man, i'd like to know how to use photoshop just like you. It's great, i'd like to see the full res image.

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                                            andyc
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                                            Thanks guys.

                                            Tina: afraid its all the dreaded 'p' word 😉 Besides which, I have the attention-span of a goldfish, so prefer the 'get-stuck-in-and-learn-by-doing' approach 😄

                                            That said, theres a lot to learn (and admire) here http://www.conceptart.org and here http://www.mattepainting.org

                                            A.

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