US Election results.

tomsdesk

I heard on the news today that for his first overseas summit, Europe perhaps, he doesn't want to project the image of the typical imperial President. . .so he is not going to use Air Force One...

I certainly hope this isn't the case...I want my president flying around this world in the fortress that is Air Force One.

RickW

@solo said:

RickW wrote:

@unknownuser said:

Now, since we've beat this horse to death, let's move on. Does anyone think Obama will resolve the India-Pakistan standoff, now in its 11,680th day?

Hopefully he can be instrumental in getting them to start a constructive dialogue, but frankly unless it directly effects our security or stands to destabalize our efforts in Afghanistan worse than it has, after 11,680 days or 32 years this is an issue that's not exactly new, kinda like the Isreal/Palistinian issue which IMO can wait for him to first tackle the issues that we voted him as President of our country to deal with first, then once we have our country on the right track then concentrate minds, resources and efforts to help out other countries with the skills we would have acquired (hopefully)during our own transformation and bi-partisan negotiations.

Pete, did you miss that the link was to a parody piece by The Onion? Or is your overly-serious response to a humor piece intended as satire?

RickW

@remus said:

Rick, i was always under the impression that more highly educated people tended to be more liberal in their outlook, which would suggest their isnt an education crisis.

Ah, but the undereducated also lean left (American Government, Landy & Milkis, p 618). Also, the undereducated (less than High School diploma, 33.7M people) outnumber the "overeducated" (Master's Degree or higher, 19.3M people, said tongue-in-cheek), according to the Census data, so does that bring us back to an educational crisis? (Incidentally, those with at least a High School diploma and less than a Master's degree number 169.6M people, and tend to lean right).

Though those at the educational extremes do tend towards the Democratic party, causality is hard to determine. One could speculate that those who already lean left prefer as much time as possible in the left-leaning academic realm (hence advanced degrees) while those who already lean right tend to start working rather than pursue advanced degrees (have between a High School diploma and a Bachelor's degree, inclusive).

One could also reasonably expect that those who receive the benefits of social programs will support the party that advances those programs.

But more than that, I suspect those between 18-29 are either voting against Bush & his policies, or are just more susceptible to Obama's highly polished delivery, having been the recipients of a continually watered-down education generally devoid of critical thinking/reasoning/analysis, or a combination of the two.

solo

Rick, I actually never clicked on the link, I responded as if indeed there was mention of such an intervention required. So yes my response was a serious one. I will make a note not to assume in future.

RickW

@solo said:

Rick, I actually never clicked on the link, I responded as if indeed there was mention of such an intervention required. So yes my response was a serious one. I will make a note not to assume in future.

I try not to be all serious. I think it catches some people off guard, though. In the future, I'll try to remember to announce (or at least indicate) when diverging into non-serious matters in the midst of serious discussions.

david_h

of you could be like me . . .silly all the time.

I try to shoot off a flare when I want to get serious.

tomsdesk

@rickw said:

I try not to be all serious. I think it catches some people off guard, though. In the future, I'll try to remember to announce (or at least indicate) when diverging into non-serious matters in the midst of serious discussions.

Now I get it, Rick...good to know. This then:

@rickw said:

...But more than that, I suspect those between 18-29 are either voting against Bush & his policies, or are just more susceptible to Obama's highly polished delivery, having been the recipients of a continually watered-down education generally devoid of critical thinking/reasoning/analysis, or a combination of the two.

is hilarious! Thanks loads for the LOL!

RickW

@unknownuser said:

of you could be like me . . .silly all the time.

I try to shoot off a flare when I want to get serious.

Good idea. I know where you could aim some of those flares...

bellwells

@remus said:

On a slight side note, it seems pretty clear where the youth of america stand.

This is not surprising given the idealism, untempered by reality, youth possesses. Couple this with the liberal pablum force fed to them during college and you'll get this result every time.

RickW

You may be laughing, but it pales in hilarity to the notion that Obama is the right guy for the job. Nonetheless, the job's his. May he not screw us up too badly...

EDIT: I am concerned that you find the appalling condition of US education a laughing matter.
Besides, since when is serious research all that funny? (The Handbook of Attitudes, Albarracin, Johnson, and Zanna, p.601)

david_h

@bellwells said:

@remus said:

it seems pretty clear where the youth of america stand.

I think Most of the youth of America tend to slouch. ..

cornel

Dear friends,

‘On paper’, such phrases are impressive (I did copy from different authors):
%(#0000FF)[“Congratulations America. You have new President.” “Congratulations America. You made the right choice.” “Yes, lets hope! Congratulations USA!” “…Very pleased about the result..!! …I'm sure things will change to the positive..!” “Well Done America! I think you are now on the Right Track!” “This is not a dream, we just took America back…” …or…
“Great to hear that Obama has it sewn up. It may be just what Americans [and indeed, the rest of the world] need right now....” “I just watched two great speeches...each man promising to work together for the better of our country: I am impressed!” …or…
“I finally feel like America got it right this time! This is so very historic in so many ways and I truy hope this can bring the people together for a common goal.” “I am so happy! Now the good works begin...yeh!”]
In reality, there was a success based on: many promises containing pseudo-values, fabulated presentations, mass-media help, etc. On the other side majority of Americans were ‘seduced’ by Liberal’s repeated magic words such as “change” or “hope”.

"RESULTS":
1.OK, finally, Liberals won!
2.Republicans won also, because they weren’t interested to triumph!
Why?! Because they are more ‘natural’…; …and they realized that shortly, there will be a very difficult time for entire people!

I saw US’s money and I did read there that motto: ”IN GOD WE TRUST”.

Which “GOD” ?! - Who are “WE”?!
Republicans pushed God aside, gentle, and Liberals, brutally…!
God approved Liberals, to show them that they can do nothing without Him, without a ‘true change’ and a ‘true hope’.

Cornel

Alan Fraser

God doesn't do politics, Cornel. That's why Christ said "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's."
If He did do politics it might be worth asking him why he "approved" Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.

tomsdesk

Oboy, Cornel's entered the political arena...this should be fun!

Alan Fraser

OMG! I just realised...Cornel is speaking in his own words and I'm giving Bible quotes. Must go and sit down for a while in a dark room.

solo

@ Alan

If God had been a liberal, we wouldn't have had the Ten Commandments, we'd have the Ten Suggestions.
-Sir malcolm Bradbury

cornel

Alan,
God “"approved" Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot”, because they were ‘illuminists’…
Even Satan (Lucifer) is on God's control...

God does politics:
“…For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.”
(Romans 13:1)

Cornel

Stinkie

@unknownuser said:

God “"approved" Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot”, because they were ‘illuminists’…

I am rather unsure what this means. Could you elaborate a little?

@unknownuser said:

God does politics:
“…For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.”
(Romans 13:1)

Hm. I didn't know the Lord was in the election rigging and staging coups biz. Then again, he is omnipresent. I keep forgetting that.

In any case. Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin ... (your) God has terrible judgement, it seems. That, or he chastises us. Either way, he belongs on the scrap heap, as he's either thick or cruel.

"Don't create gods in your own image." - Stanislaw Jerzy Lec

david_h

Okay . . .

Any of you guys cathc McCain on Leno the other night????

Leno: so how're ya doin'? Sleepin' okay?
McC: oh Yeah. Like a baby! I sleep 2 hours, wake up crying! I Sleep 2 more hours, wake up crying?"

cornel

Re. Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot, etc. (and their followers…):

“Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, He abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done.” (Romans 1:28)

It was a kind of ‘their freedom’, Stinkie,
…and all of us can do worse then them, without God!
They embraced Lucifer theories and tried to build 'free' ('illuminist'/advanced) societies...,
Socialist and Communist plagues, for example, were (and will be) FIASCOES...!

Cornel