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    • S Offline
      steve6
      last edited by

      When I stitch to make a face (and so far this is the only way I can make faces from non-planar surfaces) and use Eraser/Control or Shift to hide the stitching lines, then add a material to that face, the material applies along the hidden lines of the stitiching, and half the time the Texture Position option is unavailable, so I can't even try to square up the disparate face sections.

      Is there any way to overcome this?

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        Gaieus
        last edited by

        Hi Steve,

        Yes, you are right; positioning a texture is only possible on a single face. When you hide the triangulating line (with the Shift+Eraser), there won't actually be a single surface; the two faces can still be selected separately.

        So basically you need to

        1. start with softening the lines with the Ctrl+Eraser;
        2. then go to View > Hidden geometry to turn on the softened line;
        3. now paint one of the facets with the texture you want to use;
        4. right click > Texture > Position - and just hit a single Enter (no need to really position it);
        5. now turn off hidden geometry;
        6. now select the Paint bucket tool again but at the same time hold down Alt (the paint bucket tool will turn into an eyedropper i.e. "sampler");
        7. sample the already positioned material and paint the whole surface.
        8. Finally lean back and open a beer.

        Gai...

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          steve6
          last edited by

          Thanks! I'll try it. I'm going to need a beer after all that!

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            steve6
            last edited by

            Gaieus--

            I followed your steps, got to the eyedropper, clicked it on the existing material, and tried to paint the rest of the surface and nothing happened!

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Did you sample the material (step 7) from the surface where you had already positioned it? I should have been more clear in that step to emphasise that you have to sample it from that face.

              Gai...

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                Tobobo
                last edited by

                Steve,

                Can you post the model?

                Toby

                Philippians 4:13

                I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                  steve6
                  last edited by

                  Yes, I did, and it didn't pick up the material (I clicked the eyedropper on the material I had just applied)! I must being doing something wrong, but not sure what it is.

                  Quoting Justinian on the SU forum? Plurimus praeclarus!

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                    steve6
                    last edited by

                    I posted it already under "Roof faces and materials problem" on this forum!

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                      steve6
                      last edited by

                      Here's another one--I can't get the eydropper to work.


                      roofforsketchucation.skp

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                        Tobobo
                        last edited by

                        Steve,

                        I tried the model you post on this thread and I'm afraid it worked fine.

                        Its hard to suggest anything with out seeing you actually working. so the next suggestions are not meant to be teaching you the suck eggs.

                        Do you hold Alt when you are sampling?
                        Do click in the middle of the face not on the edge?

                        I can't think of anything else that night be the issue sorry mate.

                        Toby

                        Philippians 4:13

                        I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          @tobobo said:

                          Steve,

                          I tried the model you post on this thread and I'm afraid it worked fine.

                          Its hard to suggest anything with out seeing you actually working. so the next suggestions are not meant to be teaching you the suck eggs.

                          Do you hold Alt when you are sampling?
                          Do click in the middle of the face not on the edge?

                          I can't think of anything else that night be the issue sorry mate.

                          The same here: if you do follow all the instructions, it should work.

                          @steve6 said:

                          Quoting Justinian on the SU forum? Plurimus praeclarus!

                          πŸ˜„ Well, originally it is by Ulpianus - Digestae 1.1.10.1 (scroll down to 10); as the "title" of the Digestae says "Domini Nostri Sacratissimi Principis Iustiniani Iuris Enucleati Ex Omni Vetere Iure Collecti Digestorum Seu Pandectarum").

                          True that nice reading! πŸ˜‰

                          Gai...

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                            steve6
                            last edited by

                            Yes, I do hold down Alt. I will try sampling from the bigger area.

                            There was a time when I was a Latin and ancient Greek scholar--love to see someone else with the interest!

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                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              @steve6 said:

                              Yes, I do hold down Alt. I will try sampling from the bigger area.

                              I really don't know what goes wrong...

                              @unknownuser said:

                              There was a time when I was a Latin and ancient Greek scholar--love to see someone else with the interest!

                              Well, I deal with ancient history, archaeology and Roman Law up to now. I am actually a "Doctor Iuris" as well, wrote my thesis in Roman Law and have even taught Roman Law at university.

                              So any Latin and Greek scholars are also welcome at this place (at least by me) πŸ˜„

                              Gai...

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                                steve6
                                last edited by

                                It still doesn't work!

                                So I did Ctrl/Eraser, turned on Hidden Geometry which showed the two big triangles I had made to fill in the surface. I filled one in with the roofing material. Right-click>Texture/Position>hit Enter. Then I held down Alt, got the eyedropper--clicked the eyedropper on the middle of the roof area I just filled in, and--nothing, except that it turned the roof mmaterial in the Browser window to the default white/gray color.

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                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  I don't know what to say.

                                  Here is n attached video of the steps (right after I softened the line - hidden geometry already on). You can see when I click from the red circles. After I sample the texture (with the Alt + Paint bucket = Eyedropper tool), I release the Alt button and paint the other facet.


                                  ScreenRecord04.zip

                                  Gai...

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                                    steve6
                                    last edited by

                                    Oh, if I let up on Alt it turns back into the Paint Bucket and then it will paint. The textures don't line up, though, and the texture Position option is gone.

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                                      steve6
                                      last edited by

                                      Oh, you have to release the Alt key. I did that and it paints, but the textures don't line up, and the Texture Position option is gone.

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        You only have to hold down the Alt key while sampling. Not before (while positioning the texture) and not after you sampled (when you paint the other facet).

                                        Gai...

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