Pushpull on Steroids
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hmm, only the pushpull tool I guess the rest of the software cannot be compared to sketchup since it is primarily focused on industrial design and has the right tools for that. I just don't see myself creating a building with it.
Maybe this movie could be linked to the ruby forum with a 'pretty please?' to Fredo?
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@unknownuser said:
I just don't see myself creating a building with it.
I'm not so sure. This could be fantastic for doing detailed architectural elements. The concept of push-pulling anything : curves, curved faces, chamfers and fillets is very compelling.
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With the new JPP and surface tool ruby's, SU has 'push pull' aced IMO.
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There is a level of control and pecision here coupled with an intuitive UI that I have not seen in any other tool.
But do not misunderstand me, I'm only saying I wish the folks at SU HQ will raise the bar and add some of what we can see here in future versions. -
Coen: it is the correct link. a video should start on the right.
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Realy Showcase video are here
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Its an interesting program. Probably well worth looking at
AND I don't see why it would not lend itself to Architectural
Design!One thing that WOULD annoy me is modeling in Axonometric view,
it hurts my sense of working in 3D space!Still I DO agree that the SU team SHOULD be looking at some of
the features in SpaceClaim.Mike
PS: Does anyone know the PRICE! Could this be the BLOW OUT
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I've just looked at some of the video's and it looks very, very interesting to me as a mechanical designer! I'm even tempted to apply for the 30 day trial.
But what really annoys me with stuff like this is, "WHERE'S THE PRICE!!!"
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- 1x arm & +1x leg...
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@unknownuser said:
- 1x arm & +1x leg...
or even BOTH arms and Both legs.
But seriously, after watching all the video's I'm going to apply for a 30 day trial.
- 1x arm & +1x leg...
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They now have an LT & LTX version in the high sub $1000 bracket which isn't cheap but compares well with apps such as Rhino and very well with offerings from Autodesk considering what you are getting.
http://www.spaceclaim.com/News-and-Events/Press-Releases/09-January-2008.aspx
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I believe the Pro product is a little over $2,000, but when they started it was for an annual lease and was about $1,700/year. Not sure any more.
Founded by Michael Payne, who also founded PTC then SolidWorks. He was then CTO for Dassault (Catia), and prior to this was CEO of Spatial who make the solid modeling engine ACIS. Not a bad track record if I have it right.
Tremendous app for mechanical design, but for architecture though, don't you want more detailing for 2D production drawings?
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@unknownuser said:
Tremendous app for mechanical design, but for architecture though, don't you want more detailing for 2D production drawings?
At this point I do not think that there is an application that offers the complete package (despite what the software houses tell us). Savvy design-led architects will opt for setting up a customised work flow with a number of applications specialised for various aspects of the design/presentation/documentation work flow, rather than choosing for jack-of-all trades 3D/render/CAD solution that offers strong integration at the expense of flexibility. This is where Sketchup fits in and I think this is also how Spaceclaim is positioning itself as a specialised modelling element alongside other primary design applications. Thinking about it more, there are many situations where working with Sketchup doesn't quite make it (I think of faceted curves and faces that are an approximation and therefore not accurate when working on smaller elements),- where I could do with a secondary modeller that can handle small knuckles and details that are tedious to construct and execute in Sketchup. From this point of view Spaceclaim begins to present a compelling option.
[- But page layout/annotation/dimensioning in Spaceclaim does not look that shabby either!)But like many I'll wait for 7 and see if bigG has raised the bar...(Did somebody say mid September?)
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Solidworks seems to offer a pretty complete solution.
Saying that i still agree with your point, certainly form the point of efficiency anyway.
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I've applied for the 30 day trial and got an e-mail back saying
@unknownuser said:
Thank you for requesting a trial of SpaceClaim. A SpaceClaim representative will contact you.
That was yesterday so lets see how quick, if at all, they respond as I'm currently working under BST on the east side of the Atlantic!
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Got my instructions by e-mail today and downloaded the installer so that's a good start!
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PeterCharles
I look forward to your full review at the beginning of October!
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@toxicvoxel said:
PeterCharles
I look forward to your full review at the beginning of October!
.First, find a suitable PC (probably a Dell M6300).
Second, get approval to install it
Third, actually try it outSo beginning of October is a bit optimistic I think
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Dear Peter,
In the meantime and out of interest, why don't you email SpaceClaim a Sketchup model (as a .skp, a .dwg, a .dxf etc) and ask them to see if they can import it into their modeller. They seem to be able to import models from most mechanical 3D applications (Inventor, SoldWorks, Pro/E etc).
I have found a way to export Inventor models to Sketchup, but not the other way round, which is a pity.
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Things are getting even more interesting:
http://www.deskeng.com/articles/aaaksk.htm
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