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    toxicvoxel
    last edited by 31 Aug 2008, 19:43

    We may have looked at this one before, but this video really shows where our beloved Sketchup (could) / should be going:
    (You can skip the first 15 % of the video, the good stuff starts after that.)
    http://www2.spaceclaim.com/LearnMoreNow/AnalysisDemo.aspx

    Pity about the pricing...

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      HFM
      last edited by 31 Aug 2008, 20:53

      hmm, only the pushpull tool I guess the rest of the software cannot be compared to sketchup since it is primarily focused on industrial design and has the right tools for that. I just don't see myself creating a building with it.

      Maybe this movie could be linked to the ruby forum with a 'pretty please?' to Fredo? 🀣

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        toxicvoxel
        last edited by 31 Aug 2008, 21:45

        @unknownuser said:

        I just don't see myself creating a building with it.

        I'm not so sure. This could be fantastic for doing detailed architectural elements. The concept of push-pulling anything : curves, curved faces, chamfers and fillets is very compelling.

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          solo
          last edited by 31 Aug 2008, 21:59

          With the new JPP and surface tool ruby's, SU has 'push pull' aced IMO.

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            toxicvoxel
            last edited by 31 Aug 2008, 22:17

            There is a level of control and pecision here coupled with an intuitive UI that I have not seen in any other tool.
            But do not misunderstand me, I'm only saying I wish the folks at SU HQ will raise the bar and add some of what we can see here in future versions.

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              tbd
              last edited by 1 Sept 2008, 07:02

              Coen: it is the correct link. a video should start on the right.

              SketchUp Ruby Consultant | Podium 1.x developer
              http://plugins.ro

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                pilou
                last edited by 1 Sept 2008, 07:50

                Realy Showcase video are here πŸ˜‰

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  Mike Lucey
                  last edited by 1 Sept 2008, 14:06

                  Its an interesting program. Probably well worth looking at
                  AND I don't see why it would not lend itself to Architectural
                  Design!

                  One thing that WOULD annoy me is modeling in Axonometric view,
                  it hurts my sense of working in 3D space!

                  Still I DO agree that the SU team SHOULD be looking at some of
                  the features in SpaceClaim.

                  Mike

                  PS: Does anyone know the PRICE! Could this be the BLOW OUT
                  factor for many?

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                    PeterCharles
                    last edited by 1 Sept 2008, 18:43

                    I've just looked at some of the video's and it looks very, very interesting to me as a mechanical designer! I'm even tempted to apply for the 30 day trial.

                    But what really annoys me with stuff like this is, "WHERE'S THE PRICE!!!"

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                      juju
                      last edited by 2 Sept 2008, 07:26

                      • 1x arm & +1x leg...

                      Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                        PeterCharles
                        last edited by 2 Sept 2008, 10:35

                        @unknownuser said:

                        • 1x arm & +1x leg...
                          or even BOTH arms and Both legs.

                        But seriously, after watching all the video's I'm going to apply for a 30 day trial.

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                          toxicvoxel
                          last edited by 2 Sept 2008, 13:09

                          They now have an LT & LTX version in the high sub $1000 bracket which isn't cheap but compares well with apps such as Rhino and very well with offerings from Autodesk considering what you are getting.
                          http://www.spaceclaim.com/News-and-Events/Press-Releases/09-January-2008.aspx
                          .

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                            wmanning
                            last edited by 2 Sept 2008, 18:03

                            I believe the Pro product is a little over $2,000, but when they started it was for an annual lease and was about $1,700/year. Not sure any more.

                            Founded by Michael Payne, who also founded PTC then SolidWorks. He was then CTO for Dassault (Catia), and prior to this was CEO of Spatial who make the solid modeling engine ACIS. Not a bad track record if I have it right.

                            Tremendous app for mechanical design, but for architecture though, don't you want more detailing for 2D production drawings?

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                              toxicvoxel
                              last edited by 3 Sept 2008, 07:48

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Tremendous app for mechanical design, but for architecture though, don't you want more detailing for 2D production drawings?

                              At this point I do not think that there is an application that offers the complete package (despite what the software houses tell us). Savvy design-led architects will opt for setting up a customised work flow with a number of applications specialised for various aspects of the design/presentation/documentation work flow, rather than choosing for jack-of-all trades 3D/render/CAD solution that offers strong integration at the expense of flexibility. This is where Sketchup fits in and I think this is also how Spaceclaim is positioning itself as a specialised modelling element alongside other primary design applications. Thinking about it more, there are many situations where working with Sketchup doesn't quite make it (I think of faceted curves and faces that are an approximation and therefore not accurate when working on smaller elements),- where I could do with a secondary modeller that can handle small knuckles and details that are tedious to construct and execute in Sketchup. From this point of view Spaceclaim begins to present a compelling option.
                              [- But page layout/annotation/dimensioning in Spaceclaim does not look that shabby either!)

                              But like many I'll wait for 7 and see if bigG has raised the bar...(Did somebody say mid September?) πŸ˜‰
                              .

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                                remus
                                last edited by 3 Sept 2008, 08:37

                                Solidworks seems to offer a pretty complete solution.

                                Saying that i still agree with your point, certainly form the point of efficiency anyway.

                                http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                  PeterCharles
                                  last edited by 3 Sept 2008, 11:47

                                  I've applied for the 30 day trial and got an e-mail back saying

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Thank you for requesting a trial of SpaceClaim.  A SpaceClaim representative will contact you.

                                  That was yesterday so lets see how quick, if at all, they respond as I'm currently working under BST on the east side of the Atlantic!

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                                    PeterCharles
                                    last edited by 3 Sept 2008, 17:54

                                    Got my instructions by e-mail today and downloaded the installer so that's a good start!

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                                      toxicvoxel
                                      last edited by 3 Sept 2008, 18:43

                                      PeterCharles
                                      I look forward to your full review at the beginning of October!
                                      .

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                                        PeterCharles
                                        last edited by 3 Sept 2008, 21:09

                                        @toxicvoxel said:

                                        PeterCharles
                                        I look forward to your full review at the beginning of October!
                                        .

                                        First, find a suitable PC (probably a Dell M6300).
                                        Second, get approval to install it
                                        Third, actually try it out

                                        So beginning of October is a bit optimistic I think πŸ˜„

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                                          watkins
                                          last edited by 4 Sept 2008, 09:42

                                          Dear Peter,

                                          In the meantime and out of interest, why don't you email SpaceClaim a Sketchup model (as a .skp, a .dwg, a .dxf etc) and ask them to see if they can import it into their modeller. They seem to be able to import models from most mechanical 3D applications (Inventor, SoldWorks, Pro/E etc).

                                          I have found a way to export Inventor models to Sketchup, but not the other way round, which is a pity.

                                          Kind regards,
                                          Bob

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