Office building
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Allow me to explain a little what I'm doing: the stuff I'm rendering is supposed to be framed and hung. I did some experimenting (printing at different sizes), and the scale I've decided on, just seems to work best for this kind of thing.
I'll be doing some interiors too, in a while (got about 15 'exteriors' to do first), and those'll be a little smaller (again: "seems to work best" - I'm just going with my gut here).
BTW, any of you mouse jockeys got intel on what format is best for printing? By "best" I mean: quality wise.
@solo said:
'16912 x 10616'
Thats about the actuall size of the building, how do you view the completed render at that size and why so big?
Cool model and clay like render by the by.
lol. The print's gonna be about 1,5 m wide, if I'm not mistaken, so not quite the size of a building. In any case, it is indeed imossible to see the entire render at full res on a screen. You get used to it.
As for the model, I'm fairly pleased with it myself. I'm slowly getting better, it seems. I did base it, I must add, on a model I pulled off the 3D Warehouse. Nothing more than a box with photo's on it - but it was a great reference.@remus said:
and how long did it take?
Little under 50 hrs. Didn't want all the grain to clear up. Would've made the result too slick.
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50 hours seems pretty reasonable for something like that, especially that size.
Are these one offs? or can i pick one up at a very reasonable price from stinkie-mart?
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very nice...dig the contrast in this one.
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@marked001 said:
very nice...dig the contrast in this one.
Thanks. Threw in an hdr because of the comment you made 'bout my previous render. Turned out okay. All hail Dosch!
(Some nice stuff over at http://www.hdri-studio.com too. Bit pricey, though.)
@remus said:
50 hours seems pretty reasonable for something like that, especially that size.
Are these one offs? or can i pick one up at a very reasonable price from stinkie-mart?
I wouldn't mind if they'd only take 10 minutes or so.
Certainly not considering the fact that my electricity bill's sky rocketed. 
These are not one-offs. Not sure yet how I'm sell these yet (yes, I am planning on selling them - but not just yet). Probably through a gallery - if any of them'll want me (and I'd better be picky, too). Not even quite sure yet how much I'll ask for them. I'm certainly not going any lower than € 700. (Keep in mind that gallerists take 50%, some even 75%.)
@unknownuser said:
Love the tones/style....interesting info re your output thanks!
Thanks. More to come.
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Fantastic Stinkie. Look forward to seeing more.
So you are doing these in your spare time in order to sell them on then?
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@kevsterman said:
Fantastic Stinkie. Look forward to seeing more.
So you are doing these in your spare time in order to sell them on then?
Nope - I'm out of work (which, trust me, is not as bad as it sounds
), so I can spend virtually all my time on these. Good thing too, as I am a fairly sloppy and therefore slow modeler.As for selling these, that might work out, or it might not. Main thing is I get to do what I like the most. I haven't really done anything substantial since I graduated from the Academy of Fine Arts nine years ago - I promised myself I would not let it become a decade.
I wish I'd heard of modeling and rendering earlier (I've never been into computers much).
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@unknownuser said:
These are not one-offs. Not sure yet how I'm sell these yet (yes, I am planning on selling them - but not just yet). Probably through a gallery - if any of them'll want me (and I'd better be picky, too). Not even quite sure yet how much I'll ask for them. I'm certainly not going any lower than € 700. (Keep in mind that gallerists take 50%, some even 75%.)
Better start saving then
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very good, stinkie. this is what i would call a crisp picture. let us see more of similar work.
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@unknownuser said:
@kevsterman said:
I promised myself I would not let it become a decade.
I did...it becomes harder and harder to get people to take one and one's art degree seriously, the longer one coasts on it. After 11 years I couldn't stand it and I went and got a grad degree in architecture.
This is very interesting, stinkie (can you give us a real name, sometime?). There's a kind of an exacting minimalism...almost grim and reinforced by the gray color scheme...that suits the High Modern subject matter very well...and yet you're marketing it not as architectural visualization but as an art object unto itself.
I would be tempted to fill the image a bit more and crop it around the structures...but then, you might lose the implied assertion that this building was conceived of as an object alone, as opposed to part of an environmental and built context (one of the sins of which High Modern architects are now often accused).
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@lewiswadsworth said:
@unknownuser said:
@kevsterman said:
I promised myself I would not let it become a decade.
I did...it becomes harder and harder to get people to take one and one's art degree seriously, the longer one coasts on it. After 11 years I couldn't stand it and I went and got a grad degree in architecture.
I actually contemplated doing that myself about two years ago. Studying architecture, I mean. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't, as I'm not all that interested in architecture. It's the artistic appropriation of it's vocabulary and means that I'm interested in.
@lewiswadsworth said:
This is very interesting, stinkie (can you give us a real name, sometime?). There's a kind of an exacting minimalism...almost grim and reinforced by the gray color scheme...that suits the High Modern subject matter very well...and yet you're marketing it not as architectural visualization but as an art object unto itself.
My name is Tom. And as for the grimness - I'm a fairly gloomy person.
As for marketing this kind of thing as art, I'm surprised there's not heaps of people doing the same. There's a long and fruitful tradition of artists borrowing from architecture. (De Chirico, Gregor Schneider, Manfred Pernice, Jockum Nordström, Toba Khedoori - to name but a few.), and modeling/rendering's a fantastic medium for an artist. (I wish I'd discovered it earlier, as I've known for quite a bit what I wanted to do.)
Modernism ... there's a sense of ideals lost and promises not quite fulfilled about (some) modernist building that I find quite appealling - and worth mining. Look at pictures of Brasilia, and tell me they don't render you pensive and melancholic.
@lewiswadsworth said:
I would be tempted to fill the image a bit more and crop it around the structures...but then, you might lose the implied assertion that this building was conceived of as an object alone, as opposed to part of an environmental and built context (one of the sins of which High Modern architects are now often accused).
There was in fact more in the image at first. Didn't work - or at least not in the way I wanted it to. Cropping around the structures - wouldn't that mean you'd ignore the negative space? Doesn't seam like a good idea, in this case.
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Model needs tweaking. Word of advice: it is generally best to get your models right before you let them render for 40 hrs. Stinkie hits himself in the head while cursing loudly in Dutch: "Dom stuk vreten!"
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wow thats really big. one of the huge render image i have seen
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Which programme did you use to render them?
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I used Maxwell.
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I like it Stinkerd!
I wouldn't make the remark, but since you seem to aim for purism, the composition might be improved some more. (I am picking on a detail here ).
With all the orthogonality going on, I even would expect a full frontal (no, not nude) view with only horizontals and verticals. -
Not a detail, KB. Fairly important in this case. So thanks for the comment. I was in fact planning on choosing another composition, but not a "full frontal" one. More along these lines (quick V-Ray render; did some additional work on model too):
Oh yeah: I printed the first image I posted in this thread on photographic paper (cropped somewhat differently, though). Looks fantastic (errr ... in my opinion). Can't wait to have it printed at full-scale.
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I call this one "Lick My Grain". That, or "Kompozition nr. 12". No, wait! The title is "I've Always Hated Franz Kline For Having Already Done Something I Wanted To Do". Hell ... I'll just go with "No Title". Or, possibly, with "My Meatloaf Is Good Meatloaf". Choices, choices.
This is not the final image. Cooking other version.
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hi tom,
there is a miesian touch to these images that i like very much.
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Phaidon's "Mies van der Rohe at work" never leaves my sight. There's a couple of pictures of scale models in there that take my breath away.I say: steal from the best.
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